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The result was: promoted by BlueMoonset (talk) 15:42, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Gandhi as a Political Strategist[edit]

Mahatma Gandhi in his 70s, in the 1940s

  • Comment: The phrase quoted in the hook can be viewed online as a snippet HERE

Created/expanded by Presearch (talk). Self nom at 21:30, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

  • Article has been expanded more than fivefold in the five days preceding nom and is obviously above 1500 characters. Overall the article is sourced, neutral, and I am not seeing any indications of copyright problems. Image is good with the hook interesting and accurate, and you have reviewed another nomination, but I think there is a minor neutrality issue that should be fixed. We should not say "mistaken views of Gandhi" in the editorial voice. I would suggest the word "mistaken" can simply be stricken and the hook will be all right. The Article should also not use the term and I think the "masqueraded" quote should be noted as the author's view in the article similar to how it has been done here in the hook.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 16:56, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
Hello, and thanks for your thoughtful review and suggestion. To address the problem you identified, I have inserted the phrase "what it asserts are". The sentence now reads: <<Chapter 1 seeks to rebut what it asserts are six mistaken views of Gandhi that have "masqueraded as 'realistic' assessments."[FOOTNOTE TO TEXT]>>. Do you think that solves the neutrality issue? Many thanks -- Presearch (talk) 17:32, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
Make a similar change to the hook and I think we will be good to go.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 17:40, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
  • There's one piece of ambiguity in the hook that I think it would be useful to make clear. Is the book rebutting six of Gandhi's views or six views that people have of Ghandi? Ryan Vesey 17:53, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
Oh, yes, I see those points that each of you have made. How about the following as an alternate hook?:

Mahatma Gandhi in his 70s, in the 1940s

ALT1: ... that Gene Sharp's book Gandhi as a Political Strategist seeks to rebut what it asserts are six mistaken views about Gandhi (pictured) that have "masqueraded as 'realistic' assessments"?
Thanks for your patience. -- Presearch (talk) 18:00, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
Acceptable in my mind, I haven't looked at anything else so I'll let The Devil's Advocate leave the tick. As a comment, this should be placed so that it is online during the day of India's October 2nd, not UTC. I think 9:00 UTC would work great, that would put it up at 1:30 in New Delhi. Ryan Vesey 18:08, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
I agree that 9:00 UTC on Oct 2 would be a great time - I hope that's when it's run. Thanks -- Presearch (talk) 21:10, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
Rewrite makes it neutral and the hook stays under the character limit.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 19:16, 27 September 2012 (UTC)