Template:Did you know nominations/Gang of 25

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The result was: promoted by Desertarun (talk) 20:33, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Gang of 25

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Thatcher in 1981

... that in 1981 it was feared that 25 Conservative members of parliament would vote against Margaret Thatcher's economic policies and cause a split in the party? "Now Thatcher's personal papers for 1981, released on Saturday, show how close the Conservative party came to splitting in the face of "brutal in-fighting" in Thatcher's inner circle, and the apparently unstoppable rise of the newly founded Social Democratic party ... the threat of revolt from a group labelled by Thatcher's inner circle as the "gang of 25" has not come to light before." from: Travis, Alan (30 December 2011). "Thatcher battled cabinet 'wets' over Howe austerity plans". The Guardian. Retrieved 18 May 2021.
- ALT1:... that despite being a suspected member of the Gang of 25 that threatened to vote against the British government in 1981, Chris Patten was later appointed to Margaret Thatcher's cabinet? "it is believed that Jim Lester, Richard Needham, Chris Patten & John Wheeler made up the remainder of the 'Group of 25'." from: "Conservative Party: "Gang of 25" letter to Chief Whip". Margaret Thatcher Foundation. Retrieved 17 May 2021. and "Secretary of State for Environment, Department for the Environment, 24 July 1989 - 28 November 1990" from: "Parliamentary career for Lord Patten of Barnes". MPs and Lords - UK Parliament. Retrieved 18 May 2021.

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Freddie de Guingand

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 09:07, 21 May 2021 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:
Other problems: - See comments below

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Earwig returned a possible violation with the guardian source, but I think that's because the article uses lots of quotes from that source. The hook says, "it was feared" but it should specify who was fearful of the split. This should also be clarified in the article. Can you check the source and add this to the article and ALT0? ALT1 is approved, but I prefer ALT0. Z1720 (talk) 03:14, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Z1720, how's this - Dumelow (talk) 06:10, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

ALT2: ... that in 1981 25 Conservative members of parliament considered voting against Margaret Thatcher's economic policies, which may have led to the party splitting?
ALT3: ... that in 1981 the Conservative Party leadership feared that 25 of its members of parliament would vote against Margaret Thatcher's economic policies and cause a split in the party?

I approve ALT3 and ALT1, with a preference for ALT3. I don't like ALT2 because it feels too close to WP:CHRYSTAL (or rather, predicting an alternate reality). Z1720 (talk) 12:53, 5 June 2021 (UTC)