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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:33, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

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Goofus and Gallant[edit]

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  • ... that philosopher Theodore Sider has argued that sending Gallant to Heaven and Goofus to Hell would be unjust on God's part? Source: "Since membership in Heaven and Hell is determinate, and everyone goes to exactly one, it follows that there must be a first member of this sequence who goes to Hell. Goofus, who has mental state Mi, goes to Hell, whereas Gallant, with mental state Mi−1, goes to Heaven. But provided we choose n large enough, Goofus and Gallant will be extremely similar. It is impossible to believe that a just God would treat such a pair so differently. ... Thus, even if epistemicism is true, God could not justly send Gallant to Heaven and Goofus to Hell." (Ref 8)

Created by Bobamnertiopsis (talk). Self-nominated at 08:23, 23 December 2016 (UTC).

  • On it. But you should be aware that the extra links in your hook are just going to siphon clicks to the page you're trying to promote. If people want to know more about Mr Sider or what wiki has to say about Heaven and Hell, make 'em click through your article to get to them. — LlywelynII 15:22, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
  • I'll do the rest of the review but right off the bat the hook fails WP:LEAST and WP:EGG. The article isn't about a philosophical hypothetical but a defunct cartoon. The Gallant and Goofus of the cartoon are pointedly distinct, whereas Mr Sider's (by design) are indistinguishable to human observers. He should be mentioned in the article as a legacy and the hook is probably more interesting than anything about the eminently forgettable main topic... but the hook should still address the content of the actual article, not something entirely different that just borrowed its name. — LlywelynII 15:37, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
  • That's fair, LlywelynII; thanks for the review. How about an ALT1: ... that Goofus and Gallant have never appeared together in a panel of their comic? Cited to ref #1, "But they have never appeared in the same drawing"

    Also, I started a QPQ review. Thanks! BobAmnertiopsis∴ChatMe! 19:43, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
  • Hi, I came by to promote ALT1, but I was wondering what you think of this alt:
  • ALT2: ... that a critic of the didactic comic strip Goofus and Gallant observed that the "obnoxious" Goofus may appeal to children more than the "do-gooder" Gallant? Yoninah (talk) 22:05, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
  • Thanks. Yes, someone else needs to approve my hook. Pinging @LlywelynII:. Yoninah (talk) 22:23, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
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