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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by PFHLai (talk) 11:09, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Hakea cucullata

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Hakea cucullata
Hakea cucullata
  • ... that the leaves of the scallop hakea (pictured) cradle the flowers?

5x expanded by Gderrin (talk) and Sminthopsis84 (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 10:00, 18 November 2015 (UTC).

  • Article is long enough, recently expanded more than 5x, neutral and interesting. It is referenced with inline citations, however reference 4 and 5 do not work properly; (4: "Flora of Australia Online Error: No Name Details"; 5:HTTP 404) these should be fixed. Hook is short enough and interesting, and cited in the article to three online references (2, 3, 4). It could not be fully verified in the cited refernces, and as noted above, ref 4 does not work properly. Picture is used in the article, and Commons licence is ok. Spot checks did not reveal close paraphrasing. QPQ done. Oceanh (talk) 01:04, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Thank you for providing the missing reference 4. (Ref 2 and current 4 have mostly identical text, wrapped in different settings, so not much new from that reference). I am trying to verify that leaves "cradle the flowers" (hook main fact), or are "cupped around the flowers" (article). I could only "verify" this from pictures (several) in the cited references, but in the text description I only find "cupped about stem" (ref 2+4). I would appreciate guidance on this; either hint to textual description, or advice on whether a hook can be verified from pictures. Oceanh (talk) 20:26, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Thanks to Cas Liber and Oceanh (talk) for your work on this. In writing "Leaves ...cupped around the flowers" I was using the Flora of Australia Online site which reads "Leaves ... cupped about stem", "Inflorescence axillary" and "fruit 1–5 per axil". Overstated? (Wish I had an image as good as the one on the FloraBase site.) Gderrin (talk) 23:13, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
  • I have another couple of books I can check later today to see if we can stick to text. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:29, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
@Oceanh: This seems to be going nowhere, so what about ALT1? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:53, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
  • ALT1 ... that the leaves of the scallop hakea (pictured) cup the stem and the axillary flowers?
  • Thank you for the alt1 hook. I think this is better verified than the original, because there are also flowers at leafless nodes, and there might not be flowers at every leaf. Sorry this took some time. The hook fact about the flowers is not taken directly from the reference, but I think the interpretation is within what is acceptible and not violating OR. Oceanh (talk) 17:39, 1 January 2016 (UTC)