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The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 06:54, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

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Heather Stewart-Whyte[edit]

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2x expanded and sourced (BLP) 5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nominated at 16:13, 8 September 2014 (UTC).

  • Sorry, but this is not eligible for the 2x unsourced BLP exception, because there was a source prior to expansion. Note that "unsourced" does not mean "without inline references". The source, in the form of an external link, was used a dozen times in the expanded version as an inline ref. But it's close to the normal 5x expansion which is required. It started with 483 prose characters and it's currently 1980, so just another 435 more are required. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 21:53, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
  • There were facts in the unexpanded article which could be verified with the preexisting source. As one example, it said that she appeared on the covers of UK editions of Elle and Marie Claire; the section of the source on confirmed magazine covers says "UK: 'Marie Claire' - September 1992; 'Elle' - December 1992; 'Marie Claire' - September 1993". The 2x BLP rule is a very generous exception which is only available for BLPs which had absolutely no sources of any kind prior to expansion. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 23:25, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
  • Can I request the help of French language speakers to expand upon three stories:
  1. It seems her husband used a variety of aliases.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:45, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
  2. Her husband died of a heart attack in 2004.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:45, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
  3. She was indicted for not paying her servants.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:45, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
  • I am unable to find English language versions of these stories and I the translations I am getting seem a bit rough.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:45, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
  1. This seems to be confirmed per this source, starts "L'homme aux multiples identités, plus connu pour ses démêlés avec la justice que pour ses talents de boxeur, a été terrassé par un oedème pulmonaire.", which translates as "The man with many identities, more known for his spats with the law than for his talents as a boxer, was brought down by a pulmonary edema." He is later described as "Franck Ferrando, connu sous divers alias et ...", "Franck Ferrando, known by various aliases and..." That seems confirmed.
    1. Added.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:14, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
  2. Per this source, Franck Ferrando, who was married to model Heather Stewart-Whyte, died at age 37 "probably from a heart attack". This follow up story, however, says that it was determined that he died from a pulmonary edema. In either case, it happened in a boxing gym called Marcel-Cerdan in Noisy-le-Grand at the beginning of a boxing match in July 2004.
    1. Added.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:29, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
  3. This seems confirmed per this story. The headline says she was sought on an international arrest warrant and was at that time free in Britain after having sold her Central Park apartment to her ex-husband, Yannick Noah. The relevant section is below, "En juillet dernier, elle a entre autres été condamnée à six mois de prison avec sursis et à 25.000 € de dommages et intérêts par le tribunal correctionnel de Blois, pour avoir fait travailler, neuf mois durant, une famille de trois personnes sans contrat… et sans salaire." - "Last July, she was, along with others, convicted to a six month suspended sentence for having a family of three people work for nine months without a contract and without pay." The rest of the story is mostly just backstory. There's also further confirmation that her husband Franck Ferrando had many aliases: "Connu sous de multiples pseudonymes, Ferrando est un escroc habitué des maisons d’arrêt.", "Known under multiple pseudonyms, Ferrando is a [regular customer] of [the prison system]". 0x0077BE [talk/contrib] 15:22, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
    1. Added.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:46, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
  • Looks mostly consistent with the sources to me. I adjusted one part (the first article says that it was "probably" a heart attack, and the second one seemed more definitive, so I made that clearer), but the rest looks more or less OK. The only part I'm unsure about is the part that says she was part of a group convicted to a 6 month suspended sentence. I'm not a native French speaker, but it does seem ambiguous whether everyone in the group got the same sentence, or if she was part of a group of people convicted of the crime, and her sentence was a 6-month suspended sentence. Also, looking back at it, I forgot to translate a part of that sentence - she was given a 6-month suspended sentence and charged "25,000 euros in damages and interest by a 'correctional tribunal' in Blois". I've adjusted the wording to reflect some of this. Thanks. 0x0077BE [talk/contrib] 14:14, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
    • N.B. it seems that there are some useful sources at FR:Heather_Stewart-Whyte.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:47, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
      • It's now 2892 prose characters, so the 5x expansion requirement has been met. (Note that DYKcheck is not recognizing the recent expansion as being sufficient. I believe this is because in July 2011 a large passage was added, but soon removed; it was the clearest case of copyright violation I've ever seen, and such items are not considered when calculating expansion.) Now that expansion has been taken care of, this is ready for a full review. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:03, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
  • - This article is good 2 go. new enough, hook checks, refs checks, inline citation checks, refs checks. good work. time to move this to DYK :)--BabbaQ (talk) 20:47, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
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