Template:Did you know nominations/Heber Robert McBride

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:23, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

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Heber Robert McBride[edit]

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Created by Amgisseman(BYU) (talk). Self-nominated at 19:32, 27 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Sorry to Amgisseman(BYU) for having to wait so long for a review! This article is long enough, it was new at time of the nomination, it is written neutrally, I find no evidence of copyright violations and has many inline citations. There is a bit of an issue over notability - the article doesn't tell us why he is notable (I am sure he is but its not clear from the text). I would hate to put this on the front page to be quickly nominated for deletion. The infobox says he was a "Mormon Pioneer" but this isn't explain in the article. If you can promptly work on this I will continue the review. ツStacey (talk) 19:47, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Stacey Thanks for your review. I edited the infobox to be more specific in saying that he was a Mormon Pioneer with the Martin Handcart Company. I also updated the wikilink from Mormon to Mormon pioneer. However, I believe that he qualifies as being notable under the following criteria: "The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field" (see wp:anybio). His autobiography would be that historical record. Amgisseman(BYU) (talk) 19:49, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Thanks for considering my concerns. I have looked into it further and I agree with his notability. However, I think what this article is missing is a sentence explaining that he is a notable Mormon pioneer as he documented events in his autobiography - otherwise he would just be a Mormon. The only example I can think of to explain what I mean would be Anne Frank - as a person she was just a Jewish girl in WW2, however she is only notable due to the diary she wrote. Does that make sense? So what we need is a source that says McBride is known for his recordings of the Mormon pioneers. I will have a look myself when I get chance. ツStacey (talk) 20:23, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
  • That makes sense, and I agree. I added a sentence at the end of the article that hopefully ties it all together better if you want to take a look at it. Let me know if you have other suggestions. Amgisseman(BYU) (talk) 16:23, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Article now good to go! Most of review done above, concerns all addressed and the hook is sourced, short enough and neutral. ツStacey (talk) 10:39, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
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