Template:Did you know nominations/Hilmar Hoffmann

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:20, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Hilmar Hoffmann

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Hilmar Hoffmann in 1989

• ... that Hilmar Hoffmann (pictured) initiated the Frankfurt Museumsufer of 15 museums, including Germany's first Jewish Museum and its first museum for architecture? Source: [1]

• Reviewed: Haruka Tomatsu
• Comment: RIP. Speedy processing would be nice.

5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 20:40, 7 June 2018 (UTC).

• The article has been expanded enough, recently enough; is long enough; the hook is sufficiently sourced and the article as a whole is sourced (though they are not plentiful). However, the latter half of the Legacy section needs a citation and this in particular talks of Museumsufer, though is not the first mention of it. Also, the Awards section is entirely unsourced. -Lopifalko (talk) 07:06, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

I restored the missing ref, and found a ref for all awards (and some more), however not with the years. I hope to find those as well, and will add more awards. - Lopifalko, thank you for the review, and fixing my typo! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:11, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Good to go. Lopifalko (talk) 09:37, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

• Returned from prep for further work per discussion at WT:DYK#Prep area 2 (now Prep 5). The 4 repetitions of the word "museum" needs to be fixed. Yoninah (talk) 00:33, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

From there, to avoid having to go back and forth:

ALT3: ... that cultural politician Hilmar Hoffmann (pictured) initiated the Museumsufer, including the Jewish Museum Frankfurt? - I'd like to include "Kultur for alle" or "begnadeter Bettler", but the latter is hard to translate, "gifted" and "talented" are just to small, "blessed with the talent" is too long ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:30, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

ALT4: that politician Hilmar Hoffmann (pictured) initiated the Museumsufer, thus being credited as making Frankfurt a city of culture, not just commerce? (by Yoninah)

new: ALT5 ... that Hilmar Hoffmann (pictured) demanded "culture for all" and initiated the Museumsufer in Frankfurt? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:45, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

• ALT6: ... that Hilmar Hoffmann (pictured), who wanted "culture for all", initiated a 15-museum complex in Frankfurt, including the first independent Jewish museum in postwar Germany? Yoninah (talk) 20:14, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Fine with me, although "complex" may suggest togetherness more than there is, - with a river in between ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:52, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

• @Gerda Arendt: I know that, but "landscape of museums" is obscure. Glad you like the hook.
• New reviewer needed for ALT6. Pinging @Lopifalko: Yoninah (talk) 23:17, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

• This nomination has been languishing for a month now so I'm reviewing this. I think ALT6 should be good to go as it's interesting, only uses the word "museum" twice, and cited in the article. Arguably, "who wanted 'culture for all'" might be a bit too much for the hook, but it does fit in and so it's not a point against the hook. Rest of the review per Lopifalko, restoring tick. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 23:57, 17 July 2018 (UTC)