Template:Did you know nominations/Ian Knox (admiral)

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The result was: rejected by Montanabw^(talk) 17:45, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Ian Knox (admiral)

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• ... that earlier in his career, Vice Admiral Ian Knox assisted in the development of the Ikara ASW Guided Missile System?

• Reviewed: Carl Whiting Bishop

Created by Abraham, B.S. (talk). Self-nominated at 02:10, 19 April 2016 (UTC).

• Article is long enough, nominated in time, no copyvio detected (although I could not check Ref 1 because of restrictions, AGF), and fully sourced (including hook). Good work. All that's pending is the QPQ. --Al Ameer (talk) 16:31, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

• Many thanks for the review. Have just satisfied QPQ on Carl Whiting Bishop. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 02:37, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

• On the other hand, I'm going to say a definite no. This article has some very close paraphrased sections to his navy biography.
  Article He attended the United States Naval War College in Newport, Rhode Island from 1972 to 1973 and, on completion, was promoted to captain and appointed commanding officer of the guided missile destroyer . His next posting, in 1975, was to the Strategic and International Policy Division in the Department of Defence. In this role he served as part of the Australian delegation to the third, fourth, fifth and sixth sessions of the United Nations Law of the Sea Conference.
  Source: Vice Admiral Knox attended the United States Naval War College at Newport, Rhode Island in 1972-73. On completion he was promoted to Captain and assigned command of the Guided Missile Destroyer, HMAS Hobart. In 1975 he was posted to the Strategic and International Policy Division of the Department of Defence and was the Defence member of the Australian delegation to the third, fourth, fifth and sixth sessions of the United Nation Law of the Sea Conference Worm That Turned

• Are you serious? I have tweaked some of the above, but I'm at a loss on how one can change "United States Naval War College" (or its location), "Strategic and International Policy Division" or "United Nations Law of the Sea Conference". Abraham, B.S. (talk) 13:14, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

• Abraham, B.S., I'm afraid so. It's clear to me that you copied the text, and then tweaked some words, leaving definite close paraphrasing. This isn't something that "tweaks" can fix, the structure of the paragraph, the long matching sentences and so on just reek of plagiarism and copyright violations. If you're not willing to completely re-write the section in your own words, I will have to cut the violating bits out and delete them. I will be deleting the past revisions when you are done, either way, but this is in no state to be on the front page. Worm^TT(talk) 20:59, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

• That is a completely false allegation that demonstrates absolute bad faith. Considering this paragraph makes use of three sources, has more information/'meat' in it than the Navy bio, and is just that – a biography, in which the sequencing follows a logical and chronological structure, then your claims of plagiarism are ridiculous and offensive. Abraham, B.S. (talk) 00:08, 24 April 2016 (UTC)