Template:Did you know nominations/Ian McKeever (mountaineer)
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- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:59, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
Ian McKeever (mountaineer)
[edit]- ... that mountaineer Ian McKeever died from a lightning strike on Mount Kilimanjaro?
Created by Nimrod1686 (talk), 86.40.197.254 (talk). Nominated by Muboshgu (talk) at 01:06, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
- - Length, Date and Ref all check out. I would just suggest sourcing the un-sourced information before it goes on the front page, such as his initial claimed achievements.--Epeefleche (talk) 01:15, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
- (Became aware of this article after seeing the nomination at WP:ITN/C). Only commenting on the hook, I would suggest that since McKeever died only very recently (2 January), it is in poor taste to highlight the manner of his death in this fashion. It would make more sense to highlight his record-breaking achievements (providing that is sourced in the article). To those promoting nominations, please don't promote this unless it has been discussed. Carcharoth (talk) 03:19, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
- Point taken. You may be right. I saw this at ITN/C too, and waited a few days to be sure the RD nom was going to fail and see if anyone else was going to nominate it for DYK before I did. I remember the nomination seemed to hinge on how unusual it is to die in that fashion, so if we keep with this hook, it might be best to add something that highlights that. If not, we can use some of his records for a hook. I'm neutral on that since I have no vested interest in the article itself, but figured it should be posted to DYK if not ITN. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:27, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
- DYKcheck sees no record of it at ITN, and I doubt it would post after a week, so it looks like DYK is to be the venue. Any ALT hook proposals? The "would have worked in public relations" phrase in the article is incorrect, if one reads the cited source, and should be fixed. In addition, the four uncited entries in the List of achievements need to be cited, as does the third entry in the Publications section, given the claim made there. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:00, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
- - Length, Date and Ref all check out. I would just suggest sourcing the un-sourced information before it goes on the front page, such as his initial claimed achievements.--Epeefleche (talk) 01:15, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
- Great. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:30, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
- No action in over a week, with the exception of correction the PR error. Still needs the new ALT hook proposals and the cites mentioned above. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:59, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
Okay, all achievements sourced. They make good alt hooks. I put myself on as {{DYKmake}} and will provide a QPQ real soon. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:12, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that mountaineer Ian McKeever set the world record in the Five Peaks Challenge?
- ALT2: ... that mountaineer Ian McKeever climbed the 26 peaks of the island of Ireland in 98 hours?
- ALT3: ... that mountaineer Ian McKeever broke the world record in the Seven Summits Challenge, completing it in 155 days?
- ALT4: ... that mountaineer Ian McKeever helped his then 10-year-old godson become the youngest person in Europe to reach the top of Mount Kilimanjaro?
- ALT5: ... that mountaineer Ian McKeever set a new record for the most reek climbs on Croagh Patrick when he made 35 summits in 80 climbing hours?
And now I have produced a QPQ. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:45, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
- I'm happy to sign this off now. All of the ALT hooks look good and are sourced; I prefer them to the original, as they're a lot more positive. I suggest going for either ALT2 or ALT3. Prioryman (talk) 19:46, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
- I'll vote for Alt 2.--Epeefleche (talk) 21:24, 23 January 2013 (UTC)