Template:Did you know nominations/Irondale, Bancroft and Ottawa Railway
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The result was: rejected by Yoninah (talk) 13:20, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
Withdrawn by nominator
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Irondale, Bancroft and Ottawa Railway
[edit]- ... that so heavily in debt was the Irondale, Bancroft and Ottawa Railway after its construction that it was known as the "IOU Railway"?
- Reviewed: National Liberation Council
Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self-nominated at 23:39, 9 May 2015 (UTC).
Article is new, clearly meets the length requirements, and sourcing is sufficient. However I have some concerns that it appears to closely paraphrase sections of this page, particularly the paragraph starting, "As the prospecting expanded...". Hook is interesting and meets the length requirements, I can't check the source as it isn't online but am willing to AGF. QPQ is done - fix the copyvio and I think this is good to go. Yunshui 雲水 12:12, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
- Fixed. Ironically I wrote that long before finding that page (months ago). Maury Markowitz (talk) 12:24, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Ontario Ghost Towns website text: Mr. W. Robinson and Mr. J.B. Campbell, discovered large deposits of iron while they were clearing their lots. More discoveries followed in rapid succession and the race was on. Robinson quickly followed up with additional discoveries on lots 25, 26, 27 and 28, Concession 4. However, Campbell found the very best samples on lot 20, Concession I, a lot which was owned by Robert Gibson. Campbell formed a partnership with two men from Toronto, Shertis and Savigny, which led to the formation of the Snowdon Iron Mine Company. Robinson in turn sold the rights for lot 26 to American born Henry Stark Howland, who was living in Toronto at the time. Once word of the discoveries became known, people quickly began to gravitate towards the area. By 1874, Peter Barr had opened a general store and post office.
Wikipedia text: In 1870 W. Robinson and J.B. Campbell discovered large deposits of iron while they were clearing their lots near the settlement of Devil's Creek. Robinson quickly followed up with additional discoveries, while Campbell found the best samples on a lot owned by Robert Gibson. Robinson joined forces with two men from Toronto, Shertis and Savigny, and formed the Snowdon Iron Mine Company to mine Gibson's land. He later sold his rights on another lot to Henry Stark Howland, an American living in Toronto. By 1874 the town was growing, with a post office and general store.
It's a remarkably close paraphrase; I still wouldn't be happy passing this at this point, sorry. Yunshui 雲水 12:33, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry, I missed this post. Well I see them as being sufficiently different to pass muster, so I suppose we need a 3rd opinion on this one. Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:45, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
Copying is much too close. Three quarters of the words in the WP paragraph are straight from the source. And copying does not even have to use the same words. The fact that the flow from sentence to sentence is exactly the same is a form of copying. See the example at WP:CLOP. BTW, was it Campbell or Robinson who partnered with Shertis and Savigny? RichardMathews (talk) 08:07, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry, I missed this post. Well I see them as being sufficiently different to pass muster, so I suppose we need a 3rd opinion on this one. Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:45, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
Wirthdraw nom. Maury Markowitz (talk) 18:28, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
Withdrawn by nominator. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:51, 19 June 2015 (UTC)