Template:Did you know nominations/James Comyn

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Kosack (talk) 07:43, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

James Comyn[edit]

  • ... that a woman once threw a dead cat at James Comyn when he was cross-examining her in court? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

5x expanded by Atchom (talk). Self-nominated at 05:02, 6 December 2018 (UTC).

  • Drive-by comment: The hook doesn't make sense chronologically. Should the phrase "who later became a judge" be deleted? Yoninah (talk) 22:58, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
  • Full review here:
General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing: No - There's quite a bit of unsourced information, such as the Family section and the second paragraph of the Judicial career.
  • Neutral: Yes
  • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: No - One minor instance of close paraphrasing I noticed: "In 1970, he successfully defended the Labour MP Will Owen against charges of passing information to Czechoslovak intelligence" vs "in 1970 successfully defended the Labour MP, Mr Will Owen against charges of passing secret information to the Czechs." It's very minor and it may not even be something that absolutely must be fixed, but if the sentence could be tweaked a bit that would be preferable, just to be safe.

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - I have to agree with Yoninah that the hook order should be tweaked or "who later became a judge" be removed completely.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Your expansion of this is awesome and I love the hook, but I'm afraid this can't be approved until these issues are addressed. SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 13:55, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

  • @SkyGazer 512: Thanks for your feedback. I've edited the hook and sourced everything in the article. I also expanded the introduction a bit. Atchom (talk) 22:22, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
  • Thank you, it looks better now. Will be doing a full re-review in a few minutes but have some other Wikipedia tasks to get to first; just wanted to let you know that I've acknowledged your reply. :-)--SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 01:06, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
  • @Atchom: Alright, the other important Wikipedia tasks have been done so I've taken a look at this. The improvements you've made to the article are very nice; however, there are two minor concerns I still have. First of all, I still think it would be good if you could fix the close paraphrasing issue I pointed out above. Second, the fact that Comyn won the case doesn't appear to be sourced. Besides this, the article seems DYK-ready.--SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 01:55, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
  • The issues I pointed out have been solved and everything else seems to check out. Assuming good faith on the offline source which is being used to support most of the article's material. Thank you for your work on this article; it should be good to go.--SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 04:14, 22 December 2018 (UTC)