Template:Did you know nominations/James Marriott (musician)

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The result was: promoted by PrimalMustelid talk 17:23, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

James Marriott (musician)

Created by Georgeykiwi (talk) and Launchballer (talk). Nominated by Launchballer (talk) at 11:04, 27 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/James Marriott (musician); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is new and long enough. Passes earwig, no close paraphrasing was found, and the hook is interesting, cited inline, and verified. I do prefer the main hook, over the alt. Very minor comment, matter of preference I guess over use of youngster, I suggest maybe as a child or as a student, since this appears to be a school production. Pseud 14 (talk) 00:37, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

ALT2: ... that the British indie rock musician James Marriott played the title role in Oliver! and Bugsy Malone as a child?--Launchballer 04:55, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
  • This reads well IMO, so approving. Pseud 14 (talk) 15:37, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
Pseud 14: The Oliver! and Bugsy Malone bits were taken out of the article as trivia. Is ALT1 acceptable, or should I propose an ALT?--Launchballer 03:40, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
I cannot find the information about Oliver and Bugsy in our article. Lightburst (talk) 03:54, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
Reinstated.--Launchballer 09:23, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
ALT3: ... that the British indie rock musician James Marriott cites inspiration from video game music?--Launchballer 09:47, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Are we seriously discussing putting someone's role in school play on the main page? Last I checked "interesting" was still a criterion for DYK. The original version of this article written by Georgeykiwi was much better than the current one: Launchballer's recent rewrite inflated it with absurds amount of trivial biographic details. I don't know that it's stable enough for DYK at this point. – Joe (talk) 09:48, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
Right, I've left this article alone for a few weeks for various reasons. I see that it appears to have been semi-protected in my absence, and I've taken out a bunch of BLP violations. This should stabilise very soon. I do note that ALT1 was approved, so this could run soon. However, I've just noticed that the album has an article, so should probably be linked, and given that it prima facie passes DYK guidelines, I would like to nominate it as well, using the QPQ 2024 College Football Playoff National Championship.
ALT4: ... that prior to charting on the UK Albums Chart with Are We There Yet?, the indie rock musician James Marriott had made a career of "taking the piss out of other YouTubers' music"? Source: https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/taylor-swift-denies-the-beatles-a-16th-number-1-album-as-1989-taylors-version-smashes/ for chart position, https://readdork.com/features/james-marriott-feature-august-23/ for quote--Launchballer 13:06, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
@Launchballer: Sorry I am just seeing this now, I never got your ping (I realized it was written without an underscore in between). Having said that, perhaps paraphrase Alt4 or tone it down a bit, taking a piss might not be a language we want at the DYK Main Page. I would suggest using making fun of or mocking other YouTubers, or something along those lines. --Pseud 14 (talk) 04:21, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
ALT5: ... that prior to charting on the UK Albums Chart with Are We There Yet?, the indie rock musician James Marriott had made a career of mocking other YouTubers' music?--Launchballer 07:28, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
Alt5 reads better IMO. I'd probably link to YouTube as well. I will let promoters decide if it needs to be tweaked. Pseud 14 (talk) 13:45, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
Also the album should be reviewed as well.--Launchballer 13:47, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
The album was created/moved by Georgeykiwi from draft to the mainspace on Feb 23, well within the 7-day period to nominate as part of the double hook (nominated by Launchballer Mar 1). OK on newness, length, and citations/sourcing. Earwig appears to be at 55.1%, but attributed to a quotation. Pseud 14 (talk) 14:47, 7 March 2024 (UTC)