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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:58, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

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James Willing[edit]

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Created by DavidDelaune (talk). Self-nominated at 21:55, 19 May 2018 (UTC).

  • This article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline, and any of the three hooks could be used. The article is neutral and Earwig's copyvio tool does not bring up anything alarming. @DavidDelaune: Congratulations on your first DYK! You will not need to do a QPQ review of another nomination, and somebody will promote this hook to the queue in due course. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:28, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Just a question before I promote this: is there any information about his later life and death? Since the article only discusses his expedition and doesn't go into detail about what happened afterwards. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:48, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
  • I intentionally omitted his later life and subsequent death. Most of the literature states that James Willing was captured by the British in October of 1778 at the age of 28 onboard on a ship out at sea and remained a prisoner for an unknown length of time. It appears that he may have been held prisoner for up to a decade. The historical data is incomplete and there are no dates for when he was released and returned to the United States. A publication from 1902 states that James Willing died in Haverford, Pennsylvania but gives no details about the cause of death. Source: The American Monthly Magazine National Society D.A.R. DavidDelaune (talk) 19:28, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
@DavidDelaune: Perhaps you can add those to the article anyway? Because the article feels incomplete otherwise. Since the data is incomplete, you can write the information in such a way that this is reflected like: "he was later kept prisoner for an unknown length of time" and "he die in 1902" or something to that effect. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 21:31, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the nominator hasn't edited since June 16, and despite a number of pings, has not made the requested changes to the article. Unless another editor adopts this nomination and wishes it to move forward, this is now marked for closure as stale. The article is very close to passing, but an incomplete article like this still needs work: the article only needs a few more paragraphs anyway, so this shouldn't be hard to do. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:31, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

  • @Narutolovehinata5: I went ahead and added a few more refs and details to this article. Do you think it's up to speed now? Yoninah (talk) 20:44, 5 July 2018 (UTC)"
@Yoninah: As I mentioned to the nominator, the article still lacks information about his later life. According to the nominator, he deliberately excluded this since the information seemed unconfirmed, but since this is not a BLP, there could probably be a way to include it somehow. Like maybe along the lines of "It is reported that Willing..." or "According to The American Monthly Magazine, Willing died...". Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 21:29, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: done. Yoninah (talk) 21:48, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, restoring tick. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:57, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
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