Template:Did you know nominations/Jauchzet dem Herrn, alle Welt (Mendelssohn)
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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:45, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
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Jauchzet dem Herrn, alle Welt (Mendelssohn)[edit]
Mendelssohn in 1847
... that Jauchzet dem Herrn, alle Welt, a 1844 setting of Psalm 100 by Felix Mendelssohn (pictured), was probably not written for the Hamburg Temple, but for the Berlin Cathedral?Sources: several
- Reviewed: John Hutchison (sculptor)
- Comment: almost all sources mention this
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 20:01, 7 February 2019 (UTC).
Article is new enough, long enough, and adequately sourced. The hook fact is verified in the Google Books reference; however, the reference does not come after the sentence supporting the hook fact. QPQ has been done. I would suggest that the hook be rephrased slightly in order to give some context on why it was originally thought that it was written for the Hamburg Temple (Neues Tempel in the source). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:54, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for looking. The hook fact is in 3 consecutive sentences, and the ref now following every single one of them, hope that helps. I think we should just raise curiosity in a hook, and lure the reader into the article to search for the details. They also would not have much to do with the composition. Simply illustrating that M. was ready to work for different faiths should be message enough, imho. (It's Neuer Tempel, btw., see pic caption in de:Israelitischer Tempel (Hamburg), a FA.) - I'd be willing to add "new" but it would be a duplication of "New Temple, or we could add "reformed", or even "first reformed", - this was a prominent thing. Still, far away from the specific composition. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:07, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
- The hook lacks clarity, in my opinion. I don't mind hooks which encourage the reader to click the article to learn more, but I don't think it's executed well in this specific instance. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:18, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
- What do you suggest? I like to start with the bolded topic, but can't do it here if I try to be more precise:
- ALT1:
... that Felix Mendelssohn (pictured) was requested to compose a setting of Psalm 100 for the new Reformed Temple in Hamburg, but the 1944 choral setting Jauchzet dem Herrn, alle Welt was probably written for the Berlin Cathedral?--Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:37, 13 February 2019 (UTC)- That sounds like a step in the right direction, but right now it's 226 characters long, which is too long. What about something like:
- ALT1a:
... that Felix Mendelssohn (pictured) was requested to compose a setting of Psalm 100 for the new Hamburg Temple, but its 1944 choral setting was probably written for the Berlin Cathedral?Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:46, 13 February 2019 (UTC)- ALT1b: ... that Mendelssohn (pictured) was requested to compose Psalm 100 for the new Hamburg Temple, but probably set it as Jauchzet dem Herrn, alle Welt for the Berlin Cathedral? Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:05, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah, that sounds a lot better. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:04, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- ALT1b: ... that Mendelssohn (pictured) was requested to compose Psalm 100 for the new Hamburg Temple, but probably set it as Jauchzet dem Herrn, alle Welt for the Berlin Cathedral? Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:05, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
- ALT1a:
- That sounds like a step in the right direction, but right now it's 226 characters long, which is too long. What about something like:
- The hook lacks clarity, in my opinion. I don't mind hooks which encourage the reader to click the article to learn more, but I don't think it's executed well in this specific instance. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:18, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for looking. The hook fact is in 3 consecutive sentences, and the ref now following every single one of them, hope that helps. I think we should just raise curiosity in a hook, and lure the reader into the article to search for the details. They also would not have much to do with the composition. Simply illustrating that M. was ready to work for different faiths should be message enough, imho. (It's Neuer Tempel, btw., see pic caption in de:Israelitischer Tempel (Hamburg), a FA.) - I'd be willing to add "new" but it would be a duplication of "New Temple, or we could add "reformed", or even "first reformed", - this was a prominent thing. Still, far away from the specific composition. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:07, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
I think this has been held up a bit too long. Let's go with ALT1b as it meets the requirements. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:38, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
