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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by Rcsprinter123 (utter) @ 12:47, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Jihadism and hip-hop

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  • ALT1:... that one jihadist hip-hop song includes the lyrics "Bomb by bomb, blast by blast, only going to bring back the glorious past"?
  • ALT2:... that Amir Khan has argued that what makes ISIL so dangerous is its ability to combine radical Islamism with gangsta rap culture?
  • ALT3:... that L Jinny, a jihadist rapper, once Tweeted a photo of himself holding a man's severed head with the caption "Chillin' with my homie or what's left of him"?

Created by FiredanceThroughTheNight (talk). Self nominated at 01:07, 3 September 2014 (UTC).

  • Interesting. But this article needs some cleaning up first, FiredanceThroughTheNight. You're not mandated, I suppose, to clean up/complete the citation templates, but really, you should: include authors, dates, publications, etc. I removed an Amazon link: that mention in the article needs a secondary source. Writing a separate lead would be more than a little helpful. The second paragraph needs a citation at the end. You can probably say a bit more about Douglas McCain, who was an aspiring rapper (and I just added your article to the EL section there). These hooks aren't bad. ALT3 is a bit...well, gruesome, and I think it's the best one (but the Twitter and "homie" wikilinks need to be scrapped, IMO). Drmies (talk) 02:58, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
  • I formatted the refs. Yoninah (talk) 23:38, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
  • Sorry, but the more I look at it, the more I wonder. First of all, a month ago ALT3 seemed in OK taste; now I'm not so sure anymore. Second, the article. The first three examples in "Notable examples" need work (references) and text, and what they need most of all is some kind of connection between the rapping and the jihadism. The strongest part in there is probably the unverified note about the Kosovar. The fourth paragraph of that section, however, is neither here nor there--it's not about rap, unless by a stretch of the imagination, and that's OR. The section "Analysis" is the strongest in the article, though starting a paragraph with "Person X wrote a book" is totally pedestrian, and I don't know why Omar Hamaami is mentioned in that paragraph (isn't he a "notable example"?). The biggest suggestion I have for article improvement is that someone go to the library and check out that book, if only to strengthen the case that "jihadism and hip-hop" is a viable topic. Drmies (talk) 03:43, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
. The topic might be notable, but it lacks proper sourcing, e.g. Roc the Mic Right: The Language of Hip Hop Culture H. Samy Alim for a start. I tagged the article and recommand to stop the process here. Serten (talk) 07:34, 18 October 2014 (UTC)