Template:Did you know nominations/Jimmy Whitehouse

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The result was: promoted by ~ Rob^Talk 00:51, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Jimmy Whitehouse

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• ... that one of football goalkeeper Jimmy Whitehouse's 59 league appearances for Newton Heath came as an emergency inside left?

• Reviewed: County Cricket Ground, Hove
• Comment: Article was not tagged specifically as "BLP unsourced", but it is a BLP and it was unsourced. I have expanded the prose portion by around 4 times to over 2,000 characters, which is more than enough to make it "New" (under "BLP expanded") and "Long enough" (>1,500 characters of prose).

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by PeeJay2K3 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:18, 27 July 2015 (UTC).

• Sorry, but this is not eligible for the 2x BLP exception. One of the defining aspects of a biography of a living person is that, well, the person must be living. This guy died in 1934. Even if he were alive, it still wouldn't be eligible. The pre-expansion article must have no sources of any kind which support any fact in the article. This had an external link which sources much of the article's material. A normal 5x expansion is required. This started out with 521 prose characters and it's now 2046, a 3.9x expansion. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 01:16, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

• Well now, I feel a bit silly. Can't believe I didn't register the fact that BLPs have to be about living people! I'll see if I can bump up the prose to about 3100 characters to make it eligible as a plain expanded article. – PeeJay 10:16, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
• @Mandarax: The article should be sufficiently expanded for you now. – PeeJay 10:52, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

• Yes, it's now 3237 prose characters, which is over 6x expansion. This is ready for a full review. I'm not doing it myself because, frankly, I have no idea what an "inside left" might be. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 21:37, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

• This article is now long enough and was nominated at the correct time. The hook facts have an inline citation and the article is neutral. The sources are not available to me so I could not check for copyright issues. The hook might generate more clicks if it mentioned Manchester United, how about:

• ALT1 ... that despite normally playing as a goalkeeper, one of Jimmy Whitehouse's 59 league appearances for Manchester United F.C. (then Newton Heath) was as inside left?Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:46, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

• Not bad, but I'd suggest a slight tweak:

• ALT2 ... that despite normally playing as a goalkeeper, one of Jimmy Whitehouse's 59 league appearances for Manchester United F.C. (then Newton Heath) was as an inside left?

• All it needed was an "an" before "inside left". – PeeJay 08:39, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

• Approving ALT2. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:59, 28 August 2015 (UTC)