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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 19:35, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
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Jitan Ram Manjhi
[edit]... that in 2005, Jitan Ram Manjhi had to resign the next day after he was sworn in as Bihar's cabinet minister for his alleged involvement in a scam?
Created by Shyamsunder (talk), Indopug (talk), Dharmadhyaksha (talk). Nominated by Dharmadhyaksha (talk) at 10:50, 21 May 2014 (UTC).
New, long (4837 B). However, the hook needs to be changed for neutrality. The scam charges were dismissed later. The same hook can be accepted without the mention of the scam. -Redtigerxyz Talk 19:53, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
- @Redtigerxyz:I see that. How about the ALT1 now? In fact, the suspense on his resignation is even better now. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 11:06, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that in 2005, Jitan Ram Manjhi had to resign the next day after he was sworn in as Bihar's cabinet minister?
QPQ, ALT1 hook is good.Redtigerxyz Talk 17:55, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- @Redtigerxyz:I see that. How about the ALT1 now? In fact, the suspense on his resignation is even better now. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 11:06, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
Needs a complete review.
please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed.
Details that are supposed to be checked in a review can be found at DYKReviewing guide — Maile (talk) 15:15, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
indicates that "No problems, ready for DYK"; all aspects are checked. — Maile , Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Reviewing_guide#Finishing_the_review does not say that a long list of tick marks and checked this... checked that... is made. All aspects are checked. Article and references are checked on a sample basis. Redtigerxyz Talk 17:58, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
- Redtigerxyz The above quoted criteria in green comes from DYK review instructions. And it also says
your comment should look something like the following: Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.
And all we know from your original green tick is that you checked out the hook. The fact of the matter is, we've been having hooks pulled from the main page for issues such as copyvio not checked. WT:DYK has several mentions of this. But if you feel you really should be able to be non-specific on a review and that "No problems, ready for DYK" does it, then I encourage you to express your opinion of that on the DYK talk page. — Maile (talk) 18:14, 28 May 2014 (UTC)- — Maile , Hmmm... Please update Wikipedia:Did you know/Reviewing guide too. When you have been reviewing and nominating DYK for years, sometimes you miss on changes. Thanks for pointing out. However, it should be noted that copyvio can be checked on a sample basis for online reference and AGF for offline. It practically impossible to check if every sentence is a copyvio. All comments do the job for this article, I hope. :) Redtigerxyz Talk 18:22, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
- Redtigerxyz, the rules are here and there and everywhere, it seems. Copyvio spotcheck is I believe the norm. And the Duplication Detector tool is helpful. Nobody has to check off a list. But when an editor is deciding what to promote to prep, it's helpful if they know what was checked. There is no guarantee a reviewer has checked all they said they did. Things still slip through and things blow up on the talk page, but we do the best we can.— Maile (talk) 19:49, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
- — Maile , Hmmm... Please update Wikipedia:Did you know/Reviewing guide too. When you have been reviewing and nominating DYK for years, sometimes you miss on changes. Thanks for pointing out. However, it should be noted that copyvio can be checked on a sample basis for online reference and AGF for offline. It practically impossible to check if every sentence is a copyvio. All comments do the job for this article, I hope. :) Redtigerxyz Talk 18:22, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
- Redtigerxyz The above quoted criteria in green comes from DYK review instructions. And it also says
- @Redtigerxyz: So what is it finally? Is it still under review? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 01:43, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
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"New, long (4837 B).... QPQ, ALT1 hook is good.... All aspects are checked. Article and references are checked on a sample basis. " Redtigerxyz Talk 16:23, 30 May 2014 (UTC)