Template:Did you know nominations/John Polando
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The result was: promoted by Intelligentsium 19:29, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
Promoted John Polando. Unfortunately it's too late to further expand Russell Boardman and Cape Cod (aircraft), which now have no responsible editor at any rate. I'm giving DYK credit to User:FiendYT. Intelligentsium 19:29, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
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John Polando, Russell Boardman, Cape Cod (aircraft)[edit]
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... that while John Polando and Russell Boardman took off from Floyd Bennett Field in the Cape Cod en route to Istanbul eighteen minutes before Clyde Edward Pangborn and Hugh Herndon, Jr. took off on their attempt to circumnavigate the world, only Polando and Boardman were successful in their attempt?
ALT1:... that John Polando and Russell Boardman took off from Floyd Bennett Field in the Cape Cod en route to Istanbul, in a successful attempt to set a distance record of 5,011.8 miles (8,065.7 km)?- Reviewed: Woodstock Observer
Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:08, 21 April 2016 (UTC).
Ktr101 is now globally banned. I have not looked at the articles, but the nominator has only done one of the three required QPQs. This nomination will be rejected unless someone else is willing to adopt it. -Zanhe (talk) 23:32, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
- Zanhe, I have looked at the three articles involved, and was about to post to WT:DYK when I saw your note here. We could probably grab any needed QPQ from the nominations that you just rejected. However, all three articles contain significant duplicated sections: Cape Cod has over 700 of its 1737 prose characters copied from Polando and Boardman (it was the last written), so it can't qualify for DYK with little over 1000 original prose characters, and Polando and Boardman share over 1300 prose characters: Polando totals 2737 and Boardman totals 2143. Polando and Boardman were written at basically the same time: initially published within minutes of each other on April 18, and expanded within minutes of each other on April 21. If you subtract all 1300+ characters from either article (a rough number; it would probably be more if I went over the two in more detail), it doesn't have 1500 left over, which would leave one only eligible for DYK. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:51, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
Let's keep this alive per BlueMoonset's analysis above. Reviewer needed. -Zanhe (talk) 17:50, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
- I should note that my comments did not address the issue of whether a banned user's nomination should be allowed to proceed, just pointing out some major issues with the nomination as submitted (and Ktr101 should have known better about these). Without someone willing to act as editor to address any issues that come up, there won't be much point in proceeding anyway. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:16, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
I'm willing to act as the acting editor that will address to the issues presented in this DYK. Will begin addressing issues that may arise up from a review. Thanks! FiendYT ★ 02:30, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- Assuming this is in my jurisdiction, I would like to propose an alternative hook only using one of the articles.
ALT 2 .... that in 1931, John Polando and Russell Boardman set a flying distance record of 5,011.8 miles (8,065.7 km)? - QPQ technically is done since former editor reviewed one article. FiendYT ★ 02:41, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
Approving ALT2, the hook for a single article. There are four citations attached to the relevant sentence; most of the facts mentioned in the hook are covered by those that I can access, the others are accepted in good faith. The article is new enough and long enough. It is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:33, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
- What do we do with Russell Boardman and Cape Cod (aircraft) now? Should this nom be kept open till someone adopts them? Should it be closed with the promotion of John Polando to prep? --PFHLai (talk) 23:45, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
- I think the latter. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:19, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
- Boardman and Cape Cod are dropped; they aren't eligible per DYK length requirements (see my explanation above), so extra QPQs wouldn't help them. I have removed the DYKmake templates for those two articles as well. I have also changed "with" to "and" in ALT2 because the former is awkward. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:40, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
- i was hoping for another editor to adopt the wikiarticles and type in more text..... No one other than Ktr101 has edited the John Polando article. Should we promote this with no credit templates? Giving a banned user a DYKmake credit does not seem right. --PFHLai (talk) 10:24, 16 May 2016 (UTC)