Template:Did you know nominations/Josh Hudson

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by Z1720 (talk) 01:24, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Josh Hudson

Converted from a redirect by Soaper1234 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:14, 20 April 2022 (UTC).

  • for alt0, for alt1. Article was nominated within seven days, significantly exceeds the 1500-character minimum, and is policy compliant. Hook checks out (alt0 is based on an offline source). QPQ was done. No image submitted (only images in article are fair use). No other issues detected. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:46, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
    • shame about Claudia Blaise :( also, Metro is a deprecated source per WP:RSP—I'm quite uncomfortable with how much of the article is sourced to Metro, and don't think this should be promoted just yet. @Soaper1234: can the Metro sources be replaced? theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (she/they) 07:46, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
      • I believe the consensus was that Metro was to be avoided, and I've taken every available opportunity to replace it where possible. However, the Metro has great soaps coverage and this area of the publication is very well-regarded. I do hope this won't be an issue regarding this DYK promotion. Soaper1234 - talk 23:54, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

@Theleekycauldron and Soaper1234: For what it's worth, WP:RSP has this to say about Metro: Articles published in the print newspaper are considered more reliable than articles published only on the metro.co.uk website. If the coverage was also mentioned in print, maybe they could be used? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:32, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5: I don't believe it is covered in print, no. Soaper1234 - talk 23:01, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
Masem said at the RSN discussion that it probably shouldn't be used for facts – can the factual citations be switched out, then? theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (she/they) 07:23, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
@Soaper1234: If the sources can't be replaced and if you aren't able to respond to the concerns soon, the nomination may end up being failed for staleness. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:22, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
  • Unfortunately Soaper hasn't been very active lately and hasn't edited the article since April despite concerns about sourcing. As such it doesn't seem like the article will be ready for DYK anytime soon. I do hope that someone could adopt the nomination in his place as the sourcing issues do seem surmountable. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:51, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: That is a shame that the nomination will have to fail, as I do believe the sourcing to be reasonable within the context of the article. Soaper1234 - talk 21:33, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
@Soaper1234: The problem is that Metro is not considered a reliable source on Wikipedia. Are you willing to replace Metro as a source, or would you like to close this nomination as unsuccessful? Z1720 (talk) 12:49, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
@Z1720: It is not viable for the Metro sourcing to be removed from the article. Therefore, if the only subsequent option is to close the nomination then so be it. Soaper1234 - talk 22:43, 11 July 2022 (UTC)