Template:Did you know nominations/Končar-class missile boat
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The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 10:24, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
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Končar-class missile boat[edit]
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that the remaining ships of the Končar-class missile boat, built for the Yugoslav Navy, are in service with the Croatian and Montenegrin navies?
Improved to Good Article status by Saxum (talk). Nominated by Matty.007 (talk) at 11:07, 12 July 2014 (UTC).
Good article status bestowed on July 11, satisfying recency requirement. Article is long enough and uses in-line citations. No QPQ needed since this is not a self-nomination. The hook is short enough, modestly interesting (subjectively). spot checking doesn't reveal any plagiarism/copyright issues. The problem I have is in verifying the hook fact, which is not stated in the article. Also, the bits about the Montenegren navy seem to be in the future tense, referring to plans. There doesn't appear to be anything in the article saying that any of the boats are presently in use by Montenegren forces. Cbl62 (talk) 02:55, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
- The table states "In service with the Montenegrin Navy[11]". Thanks, Matty.007 09:54, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
- The table says that, but the body of the article says that the ships "are planned to be modified as patrol boats for service with the Montenegrin Navy." The ships can't be both "in service" and "planned to be modified" (forward-looking phrasing) to be in service. So, there appears to be an internal contradiction between the table and text. This should be cleared up. Cbl62 (talk) 01:56, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
- They are serving with the Montenegrins whilst being incapicitated during modification. They aren't non-Montenegrin ships because work is being done on them. I could change serve to operate though if it is preferable. Thanks, Matty.007 11:08, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
- I've thought about this. I think the inconsistency within the article itself, the text saying that the ships are "planned to be modified" for use in Montenegro's navy, and a chart saying they are "in service", is such that this hook ought not to be used. Would be willing to consider an "alt" hook. Cbl62 (talk) 18:35, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
- Alt 1: ... that the Končar-class missile boat has two chaff launchers? Aiming for confusion with chaff. Trying to bring my Wikipedia time to a close, so may reply if more issues. Thanks, Matty.007 08:02, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
I can't gain access to the cited sources, but accept same on good faith with respect to the alt hook. Cbl62 (talk) 23:22, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
- They are serving with the Montenegrins whilst being incapicitated during modification. They aren't non-Montenegrin ships because work is being done on them. I could change serve to operate though if it is preferable. Thanks, Matty.007 11:08, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
- The table says that, but the body of the article says that the ships "are planned to be modified as patrol boats for service with the Montenegrin Navy." The ships can't be both "in service" and "planned to be modified" (forward-looking phrasing) to be in service. So, there appears to be an internal contradiction between the table and text. This should be cleared up. Cbl62 (talk) 01:56, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
