Template:Did you know nominations/Lágrimas Cálidas

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:49, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Lágrimas Cálidas

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• ... that Lágrimas Cálidas by Fanny Lu, is an album that mixes pop music with Caribbean rhythms?

5x expanded by Luisnh1210 (talk). Self nominated at 00:44, 2 June 2014 (UTC).

• The sources do check out and it is a decent expansion. While I might have some qualms with the choppy/broken English at parts, I feel that it is not big enough a matter to halt the nomination, and this can be easily rectified through gnomish edits. (E.g. Add a "to" to "but lost") Grammar aside, I am giving this an AGF tick because I cannot understand the foreign language sources, but they seem legitimate enough. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 14:36, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

• This shouldn't affect the tick, but after it was approved, I changed "is defined as an album" to simply "is an album". MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 23:48, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

• Luisnh1210 restored "defined as". Is there any explanation for insisting on this? The hook fact is a description of the album; to say that it's a definition is very odd at best. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 04:40, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

• He's new to the whole DYK and I'm trying to show him ropes and English isn't his forte so I apologize for the inconvienece. Erick (talk) 20:59, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

• Okay. I've gone ahead and removed "defined as" again. I'm reiterating the original tick (I haven't checked the article myself). MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 21:48, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

• As Bonkers has been reblocked indefinitely, and probably wasn't supposed to be participating in DYK at all, I think we need to have a new full review from scratch by someone known to be competent at reviewing. (One reason Bonkers was reblocked was for doing 100 AfC reviews in 68 minutes, which does not give me any confidence that this review was done well.) I apologize for the inconvenience. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:45, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

I read the article, which is based on good sources and reads well (at least for me). The expansion is fine, nominated a bit late but I confess not to care too much. Mostly Spanish sources accepted AGF, I understand enough Spanish to confirm that the hook is sourced. I suggest to reword it a bit: - still not the most exciting statement, better ideas and more eyes welcome:

ALT1: ... that Fanny Lu's album Lágrimas Cálidas mixes pop music with Caribbean rhythms? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:20, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

• @ BlueMoonset. Thanks for your post of 5 June - I nearly fell over laughing (sorry, British humour). --Storye book (talk) 15:22, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
• New review for ALT1. I'm taking Gerda's review (above) on trust, and I'm just adding what is necessary for ALT1. ALT1 is sourced to Spanish-language citation #6, taken AGF. In addition to Gerda's review: I'll add that the article has no problems with disambig links or with access to external links. The text is written in an objective manner and neutral tone. It is generally well-cited (but see issue below in this review). No copyvio or close paraphrasing found. Issue: There are three paragraphs which are not cited at the end; please either explain this or cite the paras? If this issue can be resolved then this nom is good to go with ALT1.--Storye book (talk) 15:22, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

• I'll see if I can take care of it this weekend. Erick (talk) 03:05, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay college took too much of my time and I have a hospital visit this Friday. Erick (talk) 19:55, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

• I am sorry that you are too busy. Are you going to be able to find time to resolve the citation issue? If not, we can request that this nomination is closed. --Storye book (talk) 20:11, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

• Which three paragraphes do you mean exactly? I must be blind but don't see them. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:37, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

• Lágrimas Cálidas three paragraphs corrected, ready to DYK! --Luis Nuñez (talk) 20:40, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

• Thank you, Luis Nuñez. All issues resolved. Good to go with ALT1. --Storye book (talk) 07:20, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

I'm pulling this from prep because I could not verify the hook from the supplied source, which appears to make no mention of "pop". Also, the reference to "Tropipop" in the article appears to be unsourced. Gatoclass (talk) 05:48, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

• @ Luisnh1210 (or anyone who speaks Spanish). Please could we have an ALT2 which matches its source? Thank you. --Storye book (talk) 06:52, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
• @ Storye book @ Gatoclass the ALT1 has a source, is that! Read the sixth paragraph, and try to traduce it. Friends is Tropipop! --Luis Nuñez (talk) 05:30, 01 July 2014 (UTC)

• Thank you, Luis Nuñez. --Storye book (talk) 08:03, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
• @ Gatoclass. ALT1 checks out online with Spanish-language citation #1 (not #6 as we thought), which says this in the 6th para, 1st sentence:

  Lágrimas cálidas es una producción que presenta influencias muy latinas tanto colombianas como caribeñas, con visos de merengue y vallenato interpretados bajo una producción de carácter pop.

  Google Translate gives this:

  Hot tears is a production that has both Colombian and Latin influences very Caribbean, with hints of merengue and vallenato interpreted under a production pop character.

  --Storye book (talk) 08:03, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
• Good to go (again) with green tick for ALT1 and citation #1 this time. --Storye book (talk) 08:03, 2 July 2014 (UTC)