Template:Did you know nominations/Lady Glenorchy's Church

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by Theleekycauldron (talk) 06:34, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Lady Glenorchy's Church

Lady Glenorchy's Church's facade
Lady Glenorchy's Church's facade

Created by Stephencdickson (talk). Nominated by Sahaib3005 (talk) at 19:14, 6 September 2021 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing: No - The prose has a satisfactory number of citations, but many of the references are cryptic and unverifiable, from what I can tell, including "Grant's Old and New Edinburgh yol 2 p.360", "John Kay's Portraits vol.2 : Thomas Snell Jones", "Fasti Ecclesiastae Scoticana by Hew Scott", "Buildings of Scotland: Edinburgh by Gifford, McWilliam and Walker", and "Ewing's Annals of the Free Church". In general, the citations need more information. I believe that the lists of ministers and members also need citations to be eligible for DYK.
  • Neutral: Yes
  • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Yes
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: I think the citation issues I mentioned above are the only thing that would keep this nomination from moving forward. Dugan Murphy (talk) 22:03, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment
@Dugan Murphy:, @Stephencdickson: @Sahaib3005: I think this is an interesting article and to try to resolve the citing issues I have expanded the citations in question. Ewing's Annals is also available online but the link to the site is blocked by Wikipedia. I'm not sure that the lists of ministers need individual citations as several have Wikilinks, but I suspect they would all be covered by citing Fasti and Ewing's Annals. Could the nomination be reviewed again in the light of this expansion. Papamac (talk) 16:00, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, Papamac! I think that the references are now sufficiently written out to be verifiable. The only issue now, as I see it, is the largely uncited lists of ministers and members. DYK rule D2 says "The article in general should use inline, cited sources. A rule of thumb is one inline citation per paragraph, excluding the lead, plot summaries, and paragraphs which summarize other cited content." This rule does not exclude lists, so unless someone can show me a rule stating otherwise, I think there either needs to be one citation that covers each list or at least citation per line, like the listing for John Tawse WS. Dugan Murphy (talk) 17:39, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
Yes, agreed @Dugan Murphy:. Hopefully the creator @Stephencdickson: or nominator @Sahaib3005: could add these. Papamac (talk) 10:46, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
  • This is more of a comment on the hook and not the article, but the hook probably needs to be promoted to the image slot if approved, because it's not really that interesting without the picture. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:40, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
  • @Sahaib3005: how's this coming? theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (they/them) 00:21, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
  • @Theleekycauldron:, I think that maybe its time to close this nomination now. I nominated the article because I thought it was ready for dyk, but I guess not. Sahaib3005 (talk) 06:26, 20 October 2021 (UTC)