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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:30, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Later life of José de San Martín

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Photo of José de San Martín

Created/expanded by Cambalachero (talk). Self nom at 14:03, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

  • New article, long enough, with one foreign language book used as reference (refs give page ranges, so that's good). All good on that front. The article needs a good copyedit by a native English speaker before it's ready for the homepage (I have asked George Ponderevo whether he could apply his magic). I also recommend that the lead should start something like this: "The later life of José de San Martín focusses on the period after his resignation from his political offices...". As it stands, you only know from the article's title that this isn't supposed to be a bio covering the person's whole life. Once the copyedit has been done and the lead been reworded, it should be good to go. Schwede66 19:06, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
  • I have changed the lead as requested, and User:Schwede66 made some copy edits. Is it good to go now? If not, what should specifically be fixed? Cambalachero (talk) 14:07, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
  • No, I have not attempted a complete copyedit, and given that I'm not a native English speaker myself, I don't think I'm qualified enough to do so (when I write an article from scratch, it may be good enough, but I find it challenging to sufficiently improve prose for articles written by others). Schwede66 18:37, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
  • I strongly object to you editing my above comment, Cambalachero! I did not ask for a review by another editor, but I asked for the article to be copyedited. You may ask for the article to be reviewed by somebody else yourself, but do not make it look like that I asked for it. Your behaviour is not acceptable. Schwede66 21:45, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Have a look at it now. Hopefully my ignorance of the subject matter didn't lead me to mess anything up. --Yngvadottir (talk) 13:08, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
    • It is fine, the meaning was not changed. There was a minor typing mistake in a "themselves", but I have fixed it. Cambalachero (talk) 15:03, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Good work, Yngvadottir. The original hook is good to go now. Thinking about the hook, though, the original one doesn't really give that much context (one must know who the guy is for the hook to work). So below, I suggest an alternative. The fact comes from the main article and needs to be stated in the later life article, plus it needs to be referenced. So how about this one? And given that the hook will run on the day of his death, I wonder whether that fact can be worked into yet another hook? Schwede66 19:01, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Just to be clear, the AGF tick above is for the original hook, which is somewhat dull. ALT1 and ALT2 are much better hooks, but it needs to be added to the article that Martín was a "national hero of Argentina", and that fact needs to be referenced. Schwede66 19:01, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
  •  Done Can we settle this at once? Cambalachero (talk) 20:07, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
  • ALT1 and ALT2 are good to go; my preference is for ALT2. Schwede66 20:15, 14 August 2012 (UTC)