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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:26, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

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Leon de Kogel[edit]

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  • ... that Dutch footballer Leon de Kogel's playing career ended following a car accident in which he had to be cut out of his vehicle by the fire service?

5x expanded by GiantSnowman (talk). Self-nominated at 12:24, 14 February 2019 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: All in all seems to be a good job. The only issue lies in the length: the text is just long enough, standing at just over 1500 bytes according to the JavaScript Cut & Paste Character count - however the article is still marked as a stub. Perhaps the article can be reassessed as start-class now, so as to make it eligible for DYK?

Note: I added additional English-language sources and made a few tweaks to the article to further support the hook (all previous sources were in Dutch).

Also, I suggest tweaking the hook by altering "fire service" to "rescue service", such that:

  • ALT1: ... that Dutch footballer Leon de Kogel's playing career ended following a car accident in which he had to be cut out of his vehicle by the rescue service?

As it stands, the hook seems to suggest that the vehicle was on fire. The Civil Protection Department which was involved in the rescue handles both fires and other rescues, but in this case the vehicles were clearly not on fire so I think that "fire service" is misleading. This should also be reflected in the article text itself. Xwejnusgozo (talk) 22:11, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

  • @Xwejnusgozo: - I have removed the stub tag (not sure why you couldn't do this yourself, but whatever). The source I used referred to the 'fire service', not the 'rescue service'. GiantSnowman 08:40, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
  • @GiantSnowman: I had not removed the stub tag in order to have a second opinion regarding whether to classify the article as a stub or not. Regarding the fire service vs rescue service, the Civil Protection Department are mentioned in this source (which you have removed from the article - it's not original research since this article is linked from this other source which clearly mentions de Kogel).
So all in all, I think the article is ready for DYK but I think ALT1 is more appropriate.
Xwejnusgozo (talk) 20:06, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
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