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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by BlueMoonset (talk) 23:39, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

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Lone Signal[edit]

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  • Comment: I have extensively rewritten this article, and believe that it has sufficient polish to be featured on the front page. I hope to have it featured on July 6, the tenth anniversary of the Cosmic Call message.

Moved to mainspace by Brianhass (talk), Wer900 (talk). Nominated by Wer900 (talk) at 05:48, 22 June 2013 (UTC).

  • Still needs a review. Article was placed in special occasions hold without review first. Nom requests 6 July run. Froggerlaura ribbit 16:43, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
  • I'll take this one. Give me a couple of days to review both the article and the hook.--Jetstreamer Talk 17:34, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Ok, let's start with this. While reviewing the article (it's not finished yet) I found reference number 5 to be cited as a paper. I'd like to know the journal this paper was published in. It indeed seems to be a scientific paper, but there is no information regarding the publication. Is it a preliminary version of a paper that is to be submitted to a scientific journal? I'm afraid that if this hasn't been published yet, the reference may fall under WP:ORIGINAL. My second question is that the first paragraph in ″Components of message″ is entirely supported by this single source (BTW, I've placed it at the the end of this paragraph, removing an unnecessary intermediate call to it). And yet another comment: The second sentence in the first paragraph of ″Potential dangers and detectability″ is unsourced.--Jetstreamer Talk 23:29, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
Ref 5 seems to be a proceedings paper from an astrobiology conference in 2010. Froggerlaura ribbit 00:30, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
  • The paper is indeed not yet published, and I highly doubt it would be. However, I see no need to doubt that the background message they listed is indeed going to be sent. There is no OR that I know of, and to me the paper meets the requirements under SPS. The second sentence of the first paragraph is indeed supported by the Haqq-Misra paper cited for the first sentence. Wer900 • talk 00:31, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
  • I've made the change so the entire paragraph is now sourced. If the comment made by Froggerlaura regarding ref 5 is true, I see no problems in accepting that reference. However, the link provided by them shows a much shorter contribution ([1]). I wonder if this shorter paper supports the same stuff ref 5 does...--Jetstreamer Talk 23:14, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
  • Both papers are basically the same, with the exception that the paper used as a source contains the encoded message and the decoded form whereas the conference proceedings do not. Wer900 • talk 23:32, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
  • Ok, so what about including the shorter paper as a reference, and a link to the extended one in the ″External links″ section?--Jetstreamer Talk 23:45, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
  • I went ahead and added both references into a single one, including the original paper and its extended version. What do you think?--Jetstreamer Talk 00:03, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
    • That seems to be a fair compromise. Wer900 • talk 03:36, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
      •  Everything is now properly sourced. Nice hook too. Good to go.--Jetstreamer Talk 22:21, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
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