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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by PanydThe muffin is not subtle 15:41, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Manasse ǃNoreseb, Hoachanas, Red Nation, Namibia[edit]

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Created/expanded by Pgallert (talk). Self nom at 09:54, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

  • Lovely contributions by Pgallert, allow me to say. No copyright issues, no close paraphrasing, as far as I can tell. The hook checks out in ǃNoreseb article, with professional journalistic coverage and Namibian national gvt imprimatur. I have a minor concern with the use of Klaus Dierks' personal site as a source of information (not the info it sources, but the principle of it); in any case, it should not affect either the bits selected for the hook nor the size of the articles. I'm struggling to get as many articles on Romania selected for DYK on December 1 (Romania Day), but I can't help but note that December 1 is also the commemoration of ǃNoreseb' death. Might we consider featuring it on or around that date? Regards, Dahn (talk) 08:07, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the kind words, Dahn. Dierks was a serious historian; he rediscovered ǁKhauxaǃnas and authored quite a number of books on the history of Namibia. I could source all his writings offline but then nobody could check. The only issue with Dierks is that he was pro-SWAPO, but I don't think I have taken any possible bias on board. Nobody is aware of the anniversary of ǃNoreseb's death, not even in Namibia. This one can just be scheduled normally, leaving place for Romania Day on Dec 1. --Pgallert (talk) 14:24, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
  • I enjoyed reading the articles (the late colonial period is a secret object of my fascination), so thank you for creating them. The issue I raised about Dierks is neither about scholarship nor bias, but about the rather unorthodox use of a personal site; personally, I would prefer offline sources that I can't check to ones that may invite others to go looking for the same kind of online sources for much more controversial subjects. But it really doesn't bring the articles down either way, and it certainly doesn't invalidate the hook. So no worries. Dahn (talk) 17:51, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
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