Template:Did you know nominations/Marj Heyduck
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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:32, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
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Marj Heyduck[edit]
- ... that Journal Herald columnist Marj Heyduck was photographed in a different hat for each of her daily columns, for a total of over 2500 different hats and photos? Mickey Davis for DDN "Try 2,776 different hats, 2,776 different photos" [1]
- ALT1:... that Journal Herald columnist Marj Heyduck once took Gorgeous George to have his famous blond locks restyled by her hairdresser? Al&Marge for DDN "Marj decided he needed a new hairdo. So "The Woman in the Hat" took Gorgeous George to her hairdresser for a fancy perm. Gorgeous George and his blond locks became popular around the world." [2]
Created by Valereee (talk). Self-nominated at 10:18, 16 November 2018 (UTC).
Long enough. New enough. Citations throughout. AGF on non-online, non-free sources. Well written. No copyright vios. Hook is interesting. Hook citation is behind the pay wall. So AGF there. QPQ done. Now, a couple of issues need to be addressed.
- Citation 6 points to an obituary on a FaceBook page, and might not be reliable. Was it was published in a major newspaper or written by her family?
- I don't know if having an "expand section" banner under the "Awards and honors" section is in line with DYK rules. I'd just remove the banner, and say along the lines of "the following are some of the awards she won."
- Although it's cited, the word "legendary" in the lede might not be neutral.
- Anyway, citation 6 is the most important; its source needs to be clarified. Hybernator (talk) 05:35, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, Hybernator! Thanks for reviewing. The obit posted to FB is from the Woodland Cemetery website -- the place where for many years prominent Daytonians were buried -- and IIRC that was the easiest one to get to without going through the paywall. IIRC I was reading quite a bit of that info verbatim somewhere else -- the part that says "She also wrote her column from the decks of riverboats bound for New Orleans; from international fashion shows on New York’s Fifth Avenue, and from her stateroom aboard the SS Independence cruising in the Mediterranean" I remember as sounding exactly like several other obits I read. I'll see if I can find it somewhere else. The expand section can probably be removed; I suspect that the other 70+ awards were not as prominent, as every place I've seen awards listed so far shows those same ones I've got listed. Let me take another look at the lede re: legendary. valereee (talk) 10:14, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
- Hybernator I think I've addressed everything. The Woodland Cemetery obit appears to have been written using the Journal Herald obit as a starting point, and several other items in the Woodland Cemetery obit also appeared in the Darke Journal article, so I ref'd from those two. Moved legendary into impact section. Removed expand template; I suspect her other awards were from statewide organizations, or at least those are all I've found so far and I'm not sure they belong in the article. I've also remembered that at the time of her death, the Journal Herald hadn't yet merged into the DDN, not sure how to handle that. I put DDN because an earlier comment mentioned location would be helpful, but Journal Herald, even piped to DDN, doesn't actually provide the info requested. Maybe change to Dayton newspaper columnist and pipe to DDN? valereee (talk) 12:05, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, Valereee, I think you should use another link (or two) to augment the FaceBook citation. I found a couple of local publications that support "Tea with Marj": Darke Journal and Early Bird Paper. As for Journal Herald, I think it's ok to pipe DDN to Journal-Herald since DDN's history section covers Journal-Herald as one of its ancestral names. Hybernator (talk) 04:10, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
Long enough. New enough. Citations throughout. AGF on non-online, non-free sources. Well written. No copyright vios. Hook is interesting. AGF on hook citation, which is behind the pay wall. QPQ done. GTG. Hybernator (talk) 04:40, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
