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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SSTflyer 13:59, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Meanness

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  • ... that meanness is a personal quality whose classical form, discussed by many from Aristotle to Thomas Aquinas, characterizes it as a vice of "lowness", but whose modern form deals more with cruelty?
  • Reviewed: Remind me--do I need to review one if I didn't write the article? See below.

Created by Uncle G (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 01:53, 28 March 2016 (UTC).

  • Quote from rules: "if the nominator has fewer than five DYK credits (whether or not self-nominated) then the nomination is exempt from QPQ." Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:33, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
  • Surely there's some ALT we can come up with relating the article subject to certain WP editors? EEng 07:44, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
  • While the lamp wouldn't, the other three do. QPQ is set, Drmies. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:47, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
  • Full review needed now that QPQ has been taken care of. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:47, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
  • The article is new. Long enough and posted by due date. No image, so no image license issues. Earwig's copyvio detector: violation unlikely. This philosophy and sociology focussed article is an interesting read, sourced. QPQ done. Main parts of the hook verified on page 210 of Noah Webster, and pages 9-10 of Ringrose & Walkerdine. But there is one problem; @Uncle G:, @Drmies: the hook is just over the 200 limit, can we trim it a bit please? The article has much to offer for more hooks, such as using Parker's "meanness as an unmanly and unwomanly vice", or Crabb's "meanness for one person may be generosity or prudence for another", or something on "mean girls"? Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 04:13, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
  • Ms Sarah Welch, when I check the hook it comes in at 197 characters: the rules say that the initial ellipsis and space before "that" do not count (see WP:DYKSG#C8), but everything after that does (as it appears on the screen), spaces and the final question mark included. If you still think the hook is too long, you're certainly within your right to ask for a bit of a trim, but it is below the 200 character ceiling. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:28, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
  • Ahh! I did count the ellipsis and the space. @Uncle G, @Drmies: you have my technical green tick, but please consider an ALT hook for this interesting article. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 04:36, 20 April 2016 (UTC)