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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Lightburst talk 14:36, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

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Medway Branch

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  • ... that the 1864 abandonment of the Medway Branch was just the seventh railroad abandonment in New England? Source: Karr, Ronald Dale (2010). Lost Railroads of New England (3rd ed.). Pepperell, Massachusetts: Branch Line Press. p. 87. ISBN 978-0-942147-11-7.

Improved to Good Article status by Pi.1415926535 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:43, 12 August 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Medway Branch; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: I was the GA reviewer for this article, which passed the criteria two days ago. The article is adequately sourced and meets all the other requirements. I find the ALT1 hook more interesting than the first one. — Golden talk 11:57, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

@Golden: My apologies Golden but if you were the GA reviewer WP:DYKSG#H2 applies. Lightburst (talk) 15:18, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
@Lightburst: That's a shame. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. Is there anything I should do to avoid causing problems for another reviewer? — Golden talk 15:22, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
I will place this red x @Golden:. Thank you for your work and dedication. I am sure another reviewer will be a long and you have given them a starting place. Lightburst (talk) 15:46, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
ALT1 is interesting for me. I am reviewing. The route map in the infobox is a little confusing with the top horizontal rail line and pointer arrows. Reactions? e.g. was it worthwhile? Should we add "cost almost a million dollars in today's money" to hook? Possible to add more info on current status e.g. is cycle path possible? ecology? Chidgk1 (talk) 09:51, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

@Chidgk1: Unfortunately, there's nothing I came across in my research that would allow any of the additions you suggest. I prefer shorter hooks and would not recommend including the cost in the hook. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 06:32, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
@Pi.1415926535: OK I understand there is no further info and accept your point about the hook, but is it possible to have a simple and clear map for those of us who have never been to the USA and have no idea where these places are? I mean the map based on openstreetmap is OK as far as it goes but does not show how the branch connected or was superseded. When I look at [[1]] it just tells me the red arrows are "pointer arrows" which is not very helpful. Chidgk1 (talk) 07:26, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
@Chidgk1: There's not yet a general solution on how to show lines in context. I've been working on some technical ideas for doing so, but it's months or years away from being ready. Because this line was so short-lived, it never appeared on any system maps that could be included in the article; the map in source 3 is the only map I know that shows the branch whatsoever. With regards to the RDT (the diagramatic map in the infobox), the red pointer simply indicates that "Medway" refers to the station dot it points to.
I would like to gently remind you that this is a DYK nomination, which has specific criteria that are listed at the top of the page when editing. You're welcome to add other feedback on the talk page of the article. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 18:00, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
I am sorry I simply cannot understand from the RDT and text how this line fitted in to the network and was superseded. Perhaps it would be best for another reviewer to take over as this is just too frustrating for me. Chidgk1 (talk) 18:14, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

@Pi.1415926535: Ah in the RDT I see now the two "Medway" dots are two stations with the same name. So the horizontal pink line at the top must be the one from the rival company. I am guessing the diagram might be at a very specific time after the rival line was built but before this one was closed? If so it might help to have an RDT before and after that one with dates underneath to show the evolution of the network. And perhaps the company name could be put in brackets after "Medway"? Chidgk1 (talk) 15:45, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

@Pi.1415926535: Also why the circle meaning "station out of use line in use"? Is that because after the station closed that section of line going right was still used for storing or passing trains?

@Chidgk1: I'm sorry but these questions do not pertain to the DYK criteria. As you have excused yourself from reviewing this nomination, I recommend, as Pi.1415926535 previously suggested, that you address these concerns on the article's talk page. This will streamline the review process for future reviewers in a nomination that has become disorganised, for which I am partly responsible. — Golden talk 16:10, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
  • New reviewer needed per above comment. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:02, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
New enough, long enough. ALT1 short enough, sourced, and I would say more interesting than ALT0; assuming good faith on online reference. No neutrality problems found, no copyright problems found, no maintenance templates found. QPQ done and every paragraph has a cite. Good to go.--Launchballer 11:43, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
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