Template:Did you know nominations/Michel Disdier
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The result was: promoted by EEng (talk) 01:35, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
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Michel Disdier[edit]
- ... that Michel Disdier is the first French driver to race in NASCAR since the 1960s?
Moved to mainspace by NFLisAwesome (talk), ZappaOMati (talk). Nominated by NFLisAwesome (talk) at 18:42, 30 June 2014 (UTC).
Photo's a copyvio—kind of obvious at first glance (staged photo, new user's only contributions), but God, it took me a long time to find the original.[1] New (mainspaced on 30th—note that it's in the wrong WP:DYKN section and should be under June 30th not the 19th), article is not currently long enough (1465 b of prose), neutral, there is some close paraphrasing but the sentences are repeating basic facts so I'm not sure there's much to be done, still waiting on QPQ. Hook sources the fact to him in an interview. Now, he's fine for facts about himself but he isn't a reliable source for facts about NASCAR. Find another source that has vetted it? Please ping me if I don't respond. czar ♔ 14:45, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if DYKcheck is broken then or something, since mine's says 1613 characters. Regardless, I'll add to it if necessary. Regarding the hook sourcing, I'm not sure which one is correct: the current one (with the interview) has him saying he's the first Frenchman in NASCAR since 1979. However, one of the other sources provided (from a more reliable source) says he's the first since the 60s. Which one is more reliable? NFLisAwesome 18:13, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
- I haven't compared them yet but I'd say a newspaper with editorial control is always more reliable than an individual speaking in praise of himself in an interview. This said, it shouldn't be too hard to find a replacement or to fact check who's actually right. DYKcheck isn't broken, but it's counting a couple of lines as prose that aren't prose (at the bottom of the page). czar ♔ 18:18, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
- If that's the case, I believe I'll go with the newspaper source for now until I can find a different RS that says otherwise. For the lines counted, I take it you mean the one in the results section. I added extra, and now it says about 1610 characters. QPQ also provided. NFLisAwesome 18:28, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Length good, source good enough (the article predicts that he would be the first and doesn't say that he was the first since 1960s), QPQ good. One last thing is that the line that verifies the hook isn't grammatically correct—not worth holding up the nom for it though. gtg czar ♔ 04:07, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
- If that's the case, I believe I'll go with the newspaper source for now until I can find a different RS that says otherwise. For the lines counted, I take it you mean the one in the results section. I added extra, and now it says about 1610 characters. QPQ also provided. NFLisAwesome 18:28, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
- I haven't compared them yet but I'd say a newspaper with editorial control is always more reliable than an individual speaking in praise of himself in an interview. This said, it shouldn't be too hard to find a replacement or to fact check who's actually right. DYKcheck isn't broken, but it's counting a couple of lines as prose that aren't prose (at the bottom of the page). czar ♔ 18:18, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
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