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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 11:30, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Milan Puskar Health Right

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Milan Puskar Health Right

  • Reviewed: Carl Falck
  • Comment: There is a lot of good content in this article, so the author and myself welcome suggestions for alternative hooks.

Created by MrBill3 (talk). Nominated by Caponer (talk) at 12:05, 25 April 2014 (UTC).

  • ALT 1: ... that Sarah Einstein, director of Mental Health America, called Milan Puskar Health Right (pictured) "better than any clinic I have seen around the country"?
  • Providing alternate hook and reviewing. The article was created within the timeline, contains plenty of inline citations, is free of close paraphrasing and copyright infringement, and has a neutral point of view. I'm providing an alternative hook that I think is much more interesting.--¿3family6 contribs 16:20, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Per Rule H2, you cannot approve your own hook, 3family6. Could another reviewer evaluate ALT1? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 20:45, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
  • I have reviewed the tag and the quote is accurate. It matches the source used to obtain the material.HotHat (talk) 06:27, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

I've undone the promotion of this DYK by Crisco1492[1], as explained at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Daily prep area removal. Fram (talk) 12:03, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

  • Striking ALT1 per Fram—note that Einstein's title was inflated from local in the original to national in the ALT, along with other issues. Perhaps Caponer, who nominated this, can suggest an ALT2 hook. There's no point in calling for a new reviewer when we don't have a valid hook. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:59, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
  • ALT2: ... that Milan Puskar Health Right (pictured), a system of free clinics in West Virginia that handles nearly 4,000 patients a year, originally operated out of a Baptist church?
  • I'd also like to note that the lead does not adequately summarize the article. There is some editorializing in the article, such as the assertion that the clinics "fill a huge need", which is attributed to a local paper. Most of the sources, in fact, are local. Yoninah (talk) 17:17, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
  • I concur with the suggested ALT2 hook! I've also left a message on MrBill3's talk page, as he is probably better suited to answer questions regarding the article's sourcing. Thank you all for taking the time to review and improve this article for DYK consumption! -- Caponer (talk) 12:18, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
  • First MPHR is more of a single clinic with several satellites, there is a statewide system "Health Right WV". I don't know if that matters. Second the sourced "editorial" statement is well supported by the multiple facts in the paragraph it starts. Third the sources meet RS, they are local and statewide published newspapers, TV stations, the largest university in the state and national and statewide organizations. They include local papers from around the state so the sourcing isn't all from the locality of the clinic. If a subject is notable statewide I think it qualifies for DYK, but I am not very familiar with DYK. Fourth if someone can write a lead which provides a better summary, I welcome them to edit boldly. - - MrBill3 (talk) 12:36, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
  • I edited the lead and removed the quote from Sarah Einstein per DYK discussions. I also removed the unattributed quote that it "fills a huge need". I left a note on the article talk page regarding other needed improvements. Yoninah (talk) 22:44, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
  • New review for ALT2 from scratch, due to changes made since nomination date. New enough (for 25 April) and long enough. Offline citations for hook accepted AGF. QPQ OK. Hook image is free, and appears in the article. No problem with disambig links, and all but two external links are OK. Issues: (1) The Association of Free Clinics citation #8 shows where its website is, but adds no support to the text, so it appears to be redundant. (2) Citation #16 is a dead link. This is a worthwhile article, so if you could kindly deal with the two issues, this nom will be good to go. --Storye book (talk) 15:54, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
  •  Done Citation #8 is indeed superfluous, and I removed it. I also removed the dead link, and trimmed the 3 words attributed to it. Yoninah (talk) 21:41, 11 June 2014 (UTC)