Template:Did you know nominations/Minority Ownership of Media Outlets in the United States
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The result was: rejected by PumpkinSky talk 11:14, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
Minority Ownership of Media Outlets in the United States
[edit]- ... that minority ownership of media outlets in the United States is only 3%, even though the minority population is almost 30%?
Created/expanded by NetworkedTogether (talk). Self nom at 18:58, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
- Reviewed: 1989 Temple of the Tooth attack, 1998 Temple of the Tooth attack
- Comment: New article
- ALT1... that despite the minority population of the United States being nearly 30%, only 3% of US media outlets are owned by minorities?
- Suggesting ALT1 as easier to read. ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 18:07, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
Article is not completely supported by inline citations. I really feel it has WP:ESSAY problems and WP:NPOV issues in that the text appears to cherry pick legal cases about minority ownership. (This needs a second opinion?) Once these are dealt with, and they are major issues, the review can move forward. --LauraHale (talk) 04:14, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
- Fixed citation issues and included further legal cases to represent more balance as well as most recent developments. Also changed the wording on many areas to show a more neutral tone. This was to address the WP:ESSAY problems and WP:NPOV issues. Hopefully, these will take care of any concerns and the article can move forward. I am very grateful for the constructive comments and points to correct. --NetworkedTogether (talk) 03:47, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
- Raw URLS still need to be fixed. Still feel WP:ESSAY applies. Trying to think of an example. "The importance of minority owned media outlets is a hotly debated topic." I kind of expect something like this to have several citations as this is a statement that is controversial. The only citation is a press release. I'm just not seeing it supported by the referenced source. If this was an WP:ESSAY for school, this does a great use of sources and synthesis. It just... still reads like an essay and I'm some what sure if I went through all the sources, I'd find more cases where the text is not actually supported by the source. I'm also concerned about the over-reliance on topic dependent sources and press releases. Surely there are some good secondary sources on this which do a better job a summarising the topic? Doesn't the media report on this? Don't text books report on this? How do they summarize this? If these sources were used, it would probably help a lot with the WP:ESSAY problem. --LauraHale (talk) 04:09, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
- Further edits made and "essay like" conclusions have been deleted. Hopefully this resolves most of the WP:ESSAY problem. Most citations are from FCC documentation or comments by FCC commissioners or advocacy groups; these are the primary authorities for this issue. There is very limited discussion in secondary sources because most media outlets in the United States are owned by a few major corporations who have a strong vested interest in not promoting diversity in media ownership, therefore the topic is not even mentioned. Even in graduate school studies at a major university (where I attend) there is limited published material on the topic apart from the FCC documentation and the entire appeals process--of course this documentation consists of thousands of documents. That is why these documents are what has been used as source material. The "press releases" are usually duplicate documentation that are also filed officially in the FCC documentation files for the Quadrennial hearing process. Thank you again for your thoughtful comments and careful examination. --NetworkedTogether (talk) 14:02, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
I agree with LauraHale: This is a pretty good essay, but it's not an encyclopedia article. Essays and encyclopedia articles are different types of writing. For an example of the essay-like character of this piece, this piece expresses a clear point of view in support of minority ownership -- that's not appropriate here. Also, there are still several bare-url references that need to be fixed. --Orlady (talk) 14:54, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
Still looks like an essay. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:49, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
- Will review and work on later. Current work load prevents me from editing for several weeks. Thank you for your thoughtful review and comments.
--NetworkedTogether (talk) 12:46, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
Several weeks would make this much too stale. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:27, 26 May 2012 (UTC)