Template:Did you know nominations/Mrinalini Devi

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:54, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Mrinalini Devi[edit]

Mrinalini Devi with Rabindranath Tagore, 1883
Mrinalini Devi with Rabindranath Tagore, 1883

Created by Royroydeb (talk). Self-nominated at 05:22, 1 June 2019 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.

QPQ: Unknown
Overall: Excellent article and addition to women in wikipedia. Could you bring at least one English language source? As to the hook, it seems to me that it's more interesting that she was just nine years old when they married. QPQ still to do. Onceinawhile (talk) 09:40, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

@Onceinawhile: Frankly, Tagore is not hardly celebrated outside the Bengal region, so hardly is there any other language source with much information. I could only find these (1 2 3). Also during those days, marrying at 9 was not uncommon. RRD (talk) 15:35, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
How about: Sahu, Monideepa (15 May 2013). "Chapter 7: Marriage". Rabindranath Tagore: Puffin Lives. Penguin Books Limited. ISBN 978-81-8475-991-4.
Onceinawhile (talk) 15:49, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
How about a hook relating to Mrinalini’s views on Kadambari Devi. That is sure to get some clicks! Onceinawhile (talk) 15:54, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
  • The article is need of a copyedit before this can be promoted. There are many awkward grammatical constructions throughout the article. In addition, the hook, while it has potential, lacks context for non-Indian readers. For example, it states "unlike traditional marriages". How are readers supposed to know what a traditional Indian marriage is like? The hook does not make sense without context. Failing that, we can go with Onceinawhile's suggestion:
ALT1 ... that Rabindranath Tagore married his wife Mrinalini Devi when she was nine years old and he was twenty-two?
ALT1a ... that the Indian writer and Nobel laureate Rabindranath Tagore married his wife Mrinalini Devi when she was nine years old and he was twenty-two?
Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 15:34, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
  • The hook provides no context, and therefore honestly isn't very interesting. Who are the people getting married, why are they important? Are they breaking traditions from 800 years ago, or last year? Are they in India, or living in another country at the time? Also, I do find it odd their age at marriage is not mentioned. Tradition in certain places and times or not, child marriage is obviously and invariably horrible, and if their marriage was, for some reason, not horrible (they held off on intimacy until she was old enough to consent despite the grooming, etc.), then perhaps the article and hook should reflect that. Otherwise, it seems the hook is hiding the real story, i.e. horror story, for no particular reason other than a dedication to the banal. 47.185.218.146 (talk) 23:52, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Agree to ALT2. RRD (talk) 10:56, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
  • A new review is needed. ALT1, ALT1a, and ALT2 are the current choices, with the nominator expressing a preference for ALT2. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:40, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
Did some copyediting to the article. Hook is well sourced and is sufficiently interesting enough for readers who have ability to read articles of different cultures. Approving Hook ALT2. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 13:50, 25 July 2019 (UTC)