Template:Did you know nominations/Musa Kesedžija
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The result was: promoted by — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:30, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
Musa Kesedžija[edit]
- ... that hero of epic poetry Musa Kesedžija (pictured) had three hearts?
- Reviewed: Nicholas Pal Dukagjini
Created/expanded by Antidiskriminator (talk). Self nom at 19:16, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
Does the cite for the hook confirm that he is claimed to have 3 hearts, or that people with 3 hearts are seen as exceptionally heroic in Serbian epic poetry? I've no Serbian but machine translating the quote in reference 3 makes it look like it's about Vila (?) Secretlondon (talk) 02:10, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, you are right. The fact about him having three hearts is so very well known in this region that I forgot to cite it. Thank you for noticing this. I added reference now.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 06:33, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
- The citation for the hook is fine now (not checked the source just your quote from it). The article is classed as a stub which needs fixing. There's still some English tidying to do I think. Secretlondon (talk) 07:35, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
- Stub issue fixed. Please help with English tidying.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 08:01, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
- I'll try and do some more but may not have time (I'm at a conference for a couple of days). Secretlondon (talk) 15:08, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
- I've done some more editing. There's one bit I can't edit as I don't understand it: "and a product of anthropomorphosis in the form of the multiplication of body parts of the enemy.[5]" anthropomorphism is animal-related, is the claim that he got his extra hearts from his human enemies, or from animals? Secretlondon (talk) 10:10, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you for your efforts. Now when I read this sentence I realize that mention of anthropomorphism does make it too complicated. The source says:
- "Process of anthropomorphosis is reflected either through remaining animal attributes or through multiplication of the body parts of enemy. The epic descendants of chtonic monsters are remarcable figures like Duke Balačko, Musa Kesedžija or man from Kostur who had lower half of his body made of stone." It could pobably be reworded to: Because Musa has multiplied hearts he has been perceived as one of the epic descendants of chtonic monsters. What do you think?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 15:52, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delay. I think 'multiple hearts' rather than 'multiplied hearts', but fine apart from that. Secretlondon (talk) 23:59, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
- Another user was kind enough to change it to: Because of his three hearts, Musa can be seen as an anthropomorphised descendant of chtonic monsters, as their anthropomorphosis can be reflected in the multiplication of body parts. I hope its ok?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 06:48, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
- I've done some more editing. There's one bit I can't edit as I don't understand it: "and a product of anthropomorphosis in the form of the multiplication of body parts of the enemy.[5]" anthropomorphism is animal-related, is the claim that he got his extra hearts from his human enemies, or from animals? Secretlondon (talk) 10:10, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
- I'll try and do some more but may not have time (I'm at a conference for a couple of days). Secretlondon (talk) 15:08, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
- Stub issue fixed. Please help with English tidying.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 08:01, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
- The citation for the hook is fine now (not checked the source just your quote from it). The article is classed as a stub which needs fixing. There's still some English tidying to do I think. Secretlondon (talk) 07:35, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, you are right. The fact about him having three hearts is so very well known in this region that I forgot to cite it. Thank you for noticing this. I added reference now.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 06:33, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
This is fine now, but I wonder if we should use the picture? We could crop Musa. What do you think? Secretlondon (talk) 11:11, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
- That is very good idea. I would appreciate very much if you can do it? The author is Vladislav Titelbah who died in 1925, so I hope there are no copyright issues?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 15:55, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
- I've done it although it might be a bit dark for a 100px image. Secretlondon (talk) 17:46, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you very much! --Antidiskriminator (talk) 18:08, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
- I've done it although it might be a bit dark for a 100px image. Secretlondon (talk) 17:46, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
- That is very good idea. I would appreciate very much if you can do it? The author is Vladislav Titelbah who died in 1925, so I hope there are no copyright issues?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 15:55, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
- Secretlondon (talk) 18:59, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
