Template:Did you know nominations/Mykola Melnyk
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The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 13:48, 23 March 2013 (UTC).
Mykola Melnyk[edit]
- ... that Ukrainian helicopter pilot hero Mykola Melnyk made 46 sorties over the highly-radioactive Chernobyl Power Plant, and then continued firefighting flights into his fifties?
- Reviewed: I reviewed the nomination for First Battle of Warsaw (1794)
- Comment: Seems to meet 1B/C criteria
2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Ukrained2012 (talk). Self nominated at 09:41, 16 February 2013 (UTC).
Needs a full review based on DYK rules. This is not a voting matter using Support and Oppose. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:45, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
This article is an approximately four-fold expansion of a BLP. I believe it does not qualify for DYK under the x2 BLP expansion criterion because it had some references before the expansion began. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:54, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
- To clarify the above, the article had two valid references prior to expansion, so it does not qualify under the BLP expansion exception. It will need a 5x expansion. It started at 1108 prose characters, which means it needs 5540 prose character to qualify; at the moment, it has 4209. Another 1331 prose characters will need to be added. I hope this is possible; it's an interesting article. Please let us know if you'll be doing the necessary further expansion. Thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 03:59, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
- I certainly will. Although I'm not sure whether it would be relevant to this nomination anymore. Thank you everyone for your inputs, Ukrained2012 (talk) 22:25, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- If you do the expansion soon, the nomination could pass. If you don't, then the nomination will have to close. But we'd need to know your plans within the next several days, and you'd need to start within days thereafter for us to keep this open. Hope you can! BlueMoonset (talk) 04:26, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, no strict commitments for next weeks. Ukrained2012 (talk) 04:15, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
- I've done some work on the article. It is now up to 5315 characters, which is very close to the target of 5540. However, I have not yet seen a source for the hook fact about 46 sorties over the plant. There is other content in the article that is not supported by sources; some of it is also in the Russian Wikipedia article, but it's also not sourced there. I wonder if the article creator has some offline sources that are not cited. --Orlady (talk) 21:37, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
The info on Melnyk's 46 sorties is sourced on his entry in museum's Remembrance Book which is cited in the article. However, their prehistoric web-design doesn't allow either links for each database page or Google bots. The exact phrase in Ukrainian is as follows: "здійснив 46 польотів (52 голини) з метою встановлення у реактор вимірюючих систем контролю температури та радіаційних умов" (commenced 46 sorties (52 flight hours) aimed at installing radiation and temperature measuring equipment on the reactor). A screenshot is readily available should the need arise. I could use some help with proper citation of this ref according to Wikipedia rules. Thank you, Ukrained2012 (talk) 04:15, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks! I see that now. I inserted a citation at the end of the sentence that tells about the 46 sorties. Earlier, I edited the reference citation to "Remembrance Book" to include the title of the entry about Melnyk. The hook fact is supported. If you have a source for the early years in his biography (his work for the telephone service, his years in the Army, etc.), please add a citation for it. It still would be nice to have a little more expansion, but I'd be willing to push this one forward at its current length. However, because of the work I did on the article, I am marking this for additional review by someone else. --Orlady (talk) 13:21, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
