Template:Did you know nominations/Olympus scandal
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The result was: promoted by PFHLai (talk) 01:45, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Olympus scandal[edit]
... that the scandal involving Olympus Corporation is "one of the biggest and longest-running loss-hiding arrangements in Japanese corporate history"?
Created/expanded by Ohconfucius (talk). Self nom at 04:35, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
I think the hook either needs to be rewritten to avoid the long quote, or the quote needs to be attributed to the WSJ. I can't find specific DYK guidelines which address the issue, but it seems inappropriate to me to use that quote on the WP home page without attribution. --Pnm (talk) 14:57, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
- Sure, it can be shortened. I think we can replace 'Japanese corporate history' with 'Japan', but attributing it in the hook to the WSJ is probably too cumbersome and unnecessary as it's obvious it's a quote. --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 04:09, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
- How about:
ALT1: ... that the Wall Street Journal called the scandal involving Olympus Corporation "one of the biggest and longest-running loss-hiding arrangements in Japanese corporate history"?
- On the other hand, I don't think there's precident that quotes need to be attributed in-hook. I had a (shorter) quote in a hook once without an in-hook attribution, and no one expressed any concerns about it. Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 01:47, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Article is plenty long enough, plenty new enough, and thoroughly sourced. I ran duplication detector against about a dozen of the numerous cited sources. An excellent piece of work about an interesting (and disturbing) business scandal. Although I edited a couple of instances of similar wording, I did not find anything that would rise to a level of real concern. (I did, however, find an online news source -- not one cited in this article -- that had used a sentence from this article, published several days after the wording appeared here.) I prefer the ALT1 hook over the original. AGF on the hook fact, as I cannot access the Wall St. Journal piece, but I believe the quotation likely is true. --Orlady (talk) 19:29, 18 December 2011 (UTC)