Template:Did you know nominations/Paul Bashutsky

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 21:08, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Paul Bashutsky

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• ... that Paul Bashutsky was an Imperial Russian general of the infantry who served during several stages of the Napoleonic Wars, including the War of the Fourth Coalition, the War of the Fifth Coalition, and the Patriotic War of 1812?
  • ALT1:... that the Imperial Russian general of the infantry Paul Bashutsky served during numerous stages of the Napoleonic Wars, and was decorated on multiple occasions for his efforts? (Mikaberidze (2005), p. 28)

Created by LouisAragon (talk). Self-nominated at 04:12, 16 March 2017 (UTC).

• This article is new enough and long enough. I am approving the original hook but not ALT1, because that hook mentions multiple awards but the article does not (they are mentioned in the infobox, but need a reference). The hook facts have inline citations, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. I believe you have fewer than five DYKs and do not need to do a QPQ review. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:47, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

• Hi, I came by to promote this, but do not see any inline cites for the names of the wars he participated in. Yoninah (talk) 17:42, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

• I've just struck the original hook, which is 230 characters including spaces, far more than the maximum 200 allowed. Please come up with a shorter hook. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:49, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

@BlueMoonset:, * ALT2: ... that the Imperial Russian general of the infantry Paul Bashutsky served during numerous stages of the Napoleonic Wars? What do you think? - LouisAragon (talk) 22:12, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

@Yoninah:, just dropped a few more inline refs. Should be good now. - LouisAragon (talk) 22:12, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

• @LouisAragon: now it's not hooky. Yoninah (talk) 10:34, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

• @Yoninah:, * ALT3: ... that Paul Bashutsky, general of the infantry of the Russian Empire, served during numerous stages of the Napoleonic Wars?
• ALT4: ... that Paul Bashutsky was a general of the infantry of the Russian Empire who fought during numerous stages of the Napoleonic Wars? - LouisAragon (talk) 22:27, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

• @LouisAragon: but you're saying the same thing. "X is Y" is not considered a hooky fact. Perhaps you could add more description to the article and build a hook around that? Yoninah (talk) 00:00, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

• @Yoninah:, in theory there should be more than enough information in the article to build a hook around. Its just that I'm still pretty much a noob regarding this. Anyways, my last attempt. What about (ALT5 already)

• ALT5: ... that Paul Bashutsky took part in the suppression of the Decembrist revolt in 1825, and was promoted to General of the Infantry three years later? - LouisAragon (talk) 01:08, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

• Yes, that works! It also has a nice suggestiveness to it that the events were related. The hook ref is verified and cited inline. Rest of review per Cwmhiraeth. ALT5 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 14:44, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Haha, at last! Thanks for your time Yoninah :-) - LouisAragon (talk) 16:43, 30 March 2017 (UTC)