Template:Did you know nominations/Perce Wilson

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by BlueMoonset (talk) 03:49, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
Nomination withdrawn.

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Perce Wilson[edit]

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5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk), WikiOriginal-9 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 17:30, 13 August 2014 (UTC).

  • Article seems fine. It has been expanded and the size and dates are fine, no copyright violations, most policies seems in order, etc. However, there are a pair of problems. First, what about the name? The article is for "Perce Wilson", but the lead says "Percival James Wilson, sometimes shown as Percy Wilson". Second, "NFL" in the hook should be "National Football League". Cambalachero (talk) 01:54, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
  • @Cambalachero: "Perce" was the nickname by which he was known. I've added that to the article. I've also changed the hook as suggested. Cbl62 (talk) 02:09, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
  • I have pulled this from the queue, and frankly the problem seems to be so serious that I believe this shouldn't go on the main page at all and a few people deserve a good trouting. The hook is sourced to three sources at first glance:
  • [1] is a bad source anyway (a wiki), and doesn't list Wilson
  • [2] is a good source (AFAICT), but doesn't list Wilson
  • Which leaves us with ... "Pro-Football-Reference.com erroneously lists Wilson's place of birth as Detroit. The sources referenced above, including U.S. Census, Wilson's draft registration card, and the entry at Oldest Living Pro Football, all confirm, however, that Wilson was born in Ontario, Canada, and emigrated to Detroit as a boy with his family." which is pure original research. The reliability of oldestlivingprofootball seems to be dubious anyway, the other two are primary sources. When you use three sources, two of which claim X and one which claims Y, then it is not good practice to simply use Y for the hook; neither is it acceptable to review and promote this without any comment about this situation. (Note that the review stated nothing about the hook fact and the sources, which is normally a review requirement) Fram (talk) 09:15, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
  • Although I believe the reliable sources make clear that Wilson was born in Canada, I understand Fram's concern. At least one reliable sorce does list Detroit as his place of birth. For reasons having nothing to do with Wikipedia, my energy level presently is low and I don't wish to press the issue. Please deem this nomination withdrawn. Cbl62 (talk) 12:01, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
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