Template:Did you know nominations/Peter Spani (League of Lezhë)

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:01, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Peter Spani (League of Lezhë)[edit]

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Created/expanded by Antidiskriminator (talk). Self nom at 09:57, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

  • Most of the article wasn't written by Antidiskriminator as I changed most of his edits because of the prose, grammar and the use of non-English, outdated, irrelevant or incomplete sources. Large part of the article is based on sources that Antidiskriminator didn't use, so I would suggest that he doesn't claim to be creator of the article. His version was 806 characters and the one I wrote 1836 characters, while the two versions share about 600 characters of prose.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 10:43, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Incorrect. Most of the article was written by me. This is the version of the article I nominated. It contains 2023 characters + 333 characters of the list = 2,326 characters). The text ZjarriRrethues wrote (His brother was Alessio Span, who in the mid-15th century settled in Venice and served as a diplomat of the republic in the Ottoman Empire. Alessio Span claimed that they descended from several imperial Byzantine families. In Gjon Muzaka's 1510 work Breve memoria de li discendenti de nostra casa Musachi he is mentioned as a descendant of Emperor Theodosius, although it is unclear to whom it refers as there were three Byzantine emperors namedTheodosius. The Byzantine author Andreas Angelos Komnenos mentions Alexios III Angelos as his great-great-great grandfather in his work Constitutio Ordinis Constantiniani Equestris. According to that account his father was Michael, Duke of Drivast and his mother Helena Span... Gjon Muzaka's chronicle mentions that he survived the war and lived to an advanced age. In the early subdivisions of Albania during the Ottoman era the region formerly ruled by Pjetër Spani was known in Ottoman Turkish as Petrishpani or Ishpani. From 1430 to 1456 Spani is also often mentioned in the archives of the Republic of Ragusa.) contains 1,059 characters, which is less than 50% of the character number including the characters from the list I added to this article. ZjarriRrethues first deleted my cited addition then calculated who wrote what part of the article. The excuse for deletion he used "use of non-English, outdated, irrelevant or incomplete sources" is false excuse because he used the same source (Milan Shufflay) just a couple of minutes earlier and even informed me about it on my talk page.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 11:05, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
List content is never counted as prose and the version you wrote is this, so please don't claim content you never wrote as the result of your work. You had added Sufflay and all I did was to correct your quote.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 11:12, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
  • "all I did was to correct your quote"? Let me remind you that you frequently use the same source, like in article about the Principality of Arbër (Milan Šufflay) - Acta et diplomata res Albaniae mediae aetatis illustrantia here you mentioned his name 8 times.
  • Although list content is not counted as prose for DYK nomination, it does indicate who is the author of the majority of the text of the article and explains that what you wrote is not true (Most of the article wasn't written by Antidiskriminator).--Antidiskriminator (talk) 11:26, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Note. I started a draft about Peter Spani one of noblemen who allied themselves into League of Lezhë at 19:27, 20 January 2012. ZjarriRrethues followed my edits and after 12 hours created redirect page with this diff. That is not the only article he created in the main space right after I created the draft in my userspace. He did it also with Spani family article (in case of the Span family he did not create a redirect but an article). I explained him that I believe what he did is repeated incivility aimed against me.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 11:51, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
You've written only a small part of this article and yet you're claiming that you're the sole creator/contributor of most parts while you aren't.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 10:29, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
Incorrect. I never claimed that. On the contrary. I specifically wrote:significant contributor was ZjarriRrethues but you deleted what I wrote and then falsely accused me.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 11:40, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Who actually wrote the article doesn't matter so much now. Though I'm unable to verify the Serbian sources, everything looks like it checks out.--Carabinieri (talk) 14:36, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
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