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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 07:36, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Phil Williams (Alabama senator)

5x expanded by Kafoxe (talk). Self-nominated at 01:35, 20 January 2022 (UTC).

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - The hook is not found in the article at all, and neither is the source used.
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - The hook needs to differentiate between the two Williams a bit better.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: The hook issues are going to hold this one up. SounderBruce 03:42, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

  • I have added the hook and its source to both articles, and provided an alternative hook that includes the Williams' titles. Both articles were stubs prior to expansion, but I removed the tags from the pages in expanding them. Kafoxe (talk) 01:33, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
    • @Kafoxe: The source is an opinion piece, so if an alternative is available, that would be better. SounderBruce 01:52, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
      • @SounderBruce: I've replaced the source in the nomination with a new one and added it to both articles. Kafoxe (talk) 02:00, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
        • ALT1 is good to go. SounderBruce 08:35, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
          • @SounderBruce: actually, ALT0 is fine in my opinion—the ambiguity is its strength. It's a quirky hook; it omits a little bit of the story to make readers want to click more, without giving false information. If you'd approve it, I'd be much happier to promote that one. theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (she/they) 09:27, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
            • (for ALT0) It would be hookier. SounderBruce 11:21, 2 February 2022 (UTC)