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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by PanydThe muffin is not subtle 17:04, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Philippine resistance against Japan[edit]

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A propaganda poster depicting the Philippine resistance movement

Created/expanded by Arius1998 (talk). Self nom at 14:34, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

  • The above comment was removed by Electriccatfish2 (talk · contribs) but has been restored by myself because the below opinion by Piotrus (talk · contribs) will appear out of place without it. Cunard (talk) 05:39, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Actually, I have a second opinion here (or perhaps the first, seeing as the previous reviewer did not even comment with a single word). And while date and size are fine, the hook is a problem. Setting aside the fact that it is very boring (and the article has a number of more interesting possibilities), the hook is also unreferenced. I am not seeing any ref that confirms this term is used in such a way. Sure, it is common sense, but still, I'd strongly suggest a different, more interesting and properly referenced hook. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 18:07, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Okay, but I was clearly wrong and missed that the hook was unreferenced. Electric Catfish 18:59, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
  • In addition to the hook being boring and unreferenced, it is also longer than permissible at 214 characters. Furthermore, the nominator has far more than five DYKs, and owes a QPQ review. Finally, there has been no response to the talk page note Piotrus added on the 30th, despite significant activity by the nominator. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:55, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
While I much prefer the new hook to the original, it unfortunately cannot be used because of the unacceptably close paraphrasing to the book from which is is sourced, which also extends to the equivalent sentence from the article itself. Further, the sentence before it is an exact copy. Compare these sentences from article and the source:
  • Article: Postwar investigations showed that about 260,000 people were in guerrilla organizations and that members of the anti-Japanese underground organizations were even more numerous. Such was their effectiveness that by the end of the war in 1945, Japan controlled only twelve of the forty-eight provinces.
  • Source: Postwar investigations showed that about 260,000 people were in guerrilla organizations and that members of the anti-Japanese underground organizations were even more numerous. Their effectiveness was such that by the end of the war, Japan controlled only 12 of the 48 provinces in the Philippines.

I have not checked for further close paraphrasing, but a further review doing so should be undertaken before this is approved. The article was tagged a few days ago with a template questioning its neutrality (talk page says one guerilla group is overbalanced in the article). This is an issue for DYK, as one of the criteria is that the article be neutral. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:34, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

  • It has been a full week, and the close paraphrasing issues have not been addressed, the article is still tagged with NPOV, and a QPQ has not been done. I wish the nominator had been more responsive, but under the circumstances, this article is ineligible for inclusion in DYK. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:46, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
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