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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by Hawkeye7 (discuss) 23:46, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
Marking for closure. Citations are still required.

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Plastic colorant[edit]

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Created by Kku (talk) and FriyMan (talk). Nominated by FriyMan (talk) at 19:18, 18 July 2017 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - Source contains the fact, but questionable if reliable.
  • Interesting: No - ALT0 doesn't go beyond the definition. ALT1 is interesting.
  • Other problems: No - Typo in ALT0: "dies" should be "dyes." I suggest rewording ALT1 to "... that the type of plastic colorant used in manufacturing plastics depends upon the plastic being colored?"
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Summary: Sourcing problems and typo in ALT0. ALT1 is preferred (with modification). The page could use some work on its prose, including fixing the cite note spacing and cleaning up comma problems.

Analysis: Claim of creation on July 18th, nominated July 18th. Article was created on the 18th, which is within 7 days of the nomination. Length >1500 bytes, start class. Not previously nominated for DYK. "Examples" table is unsourced. Wikipedia is not a WP:RS. Neutral tone. Per Earwig's Copyvio Detector, 6.5% for source with some direct quotes of listed material, cited as paraphrasing within the article. Because it's a list, I'd say it's okay. ALT0 found in slide 2 of cited source, ALT1 uncited. The cited source is a slideshow purportedly from Royce Plastic International, posted by an account name of "Royceintly" on Slideshare.net. While I'm inclined to believe that this account has some connection to the company, I'm hesitant to call a random slide presentation a WP:RS. Another source for ALT0 would be preferred. "Dyes" is misspelled in ALT0. ALT0 isn't particularly interesting; the definition of "colorants" includes "dyes" and "pigments." ALT1 is worded a little weirdly. I suggest rewording ALT1, as shown above. ALT1 is preferred. Please include a source for ALT1's material. No pictures. No DYK credits, so QPQ unnecessary. ―Biochemistry🙴❤ 23:27, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

@FriyMan: Can you provide a reference for the table, and for this sentence: "The type of a colorant is chosen based on the type of a polymeric resin" (i.e., the sentence that backs up ALT1). @Biochemistry&Love: I know ALT1's phrasing seems a little odd, but honestly I kinda like it, it's as if each half mirrors the other. But that's just one opinion. --Usernameunique (talk) 09:24, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Both proposed hooks require editing for grammatical issues. Suggest the following: "... that plastic colorants can come in the forms of dyes or pigments?" and "... that the type of plastic colorant used depends on the type of plastic being colored?" Neither is particularly interesting, though. --Khajidha (talk) 14:36, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Second paragraph and table require sourcing while the URL 5 needs formatting.Tintor2 (talk) 01:23, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
FriyMan, can you address the "citation needed" tag in the article, and add a citation for the table? Thanks, --Usernameunique (talk) 05:56, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
Marking for closure. Citations are still required, and FriyMan, who has been pinged twice but not responded (despite continuing to make edits elsewhere), appears to have abandoned the nomination. Unless Kku wants to resolve the citation issues, this nomination is dead. --Usernameunique (talk) 00:20, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
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