Template:Did you know nominations/Ponte Conde de Linhares
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:35, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
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Ponte Conde de Linhares[edit]
... that the Ponte Conde de Linhares (pictured) was said to be the world's longest bridge when completed in 1634?
ALT1:... that the Ponte Conde de Linhares (pictured) was built on alluvial soil using the trunk of a tree with laterite stone being used for the superstructure?- Reviewed: Remedios Circle
- Comment: I am not sure if my usage of the article title is correct. Please let me know if incorrect.
5x expanded by Rsrikanth05 (talk). Self nominated at 20:07, 19 July 2014 (UTC).
ALTA ... that the Ponte Conde de Linhares (pictured) is thought to have been the world's longest bridge when it was completed in 1634?EEng (talk) 19:44, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
But I'm worried. First of all, it's very tough to know there wasn't some longer bridge in 1634, there being no International Association of Bridge Builders or whatever back then, and the source is a local planning document that don't look all too careful. Second, it's not a bridge but a causeway. EEng (talk) 19:44, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
- Which is why I specified that it was 'said to be', which can also be rewritten as 'thought to be' or 'considered'. The source is from the City of Panaji Municipal Corporation which existed back in the days the bridge was built, although in a different form. That's why I added an alt. I wasn't sure the original hook would hold. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 19:48, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry, I don't buy it. This is an extraordinary statement that needs an authoritative source. EEng (talk) 04:12, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- Which is I gave an alt. Please define authoritative source. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 04:21, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- For example, a scholarly study of civil engineering accomplishments throughout the world over the centuries -- not a local government saying, "Someone said our bridge was the biggest when it was built 500 years ago!" On alt1, I'm sorry, but I don't know what "using the trunk of a tree with laterite stone being used for the superstructure" means. I think I probably sound grumpy but let's make this DYK something that will attract interest to your subject rather than something that will make people shake their head skeptically. Why not use "A local tradition states that the bridge was built by the Jesuits in a single night using the light of a single lamp." The miracle of the Jesuit causeway -- that's hooky. EEng (talk) 05:03, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- That sounds good enough, except for the Jesuit Causeway bit. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 11:12, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- For example, a scholarly study of civil engineering accomplishments throughout the world over the centuries -- not a local government saying, "Someone said our bridge was the biggest when it was built 500 years ago!" On alt1, I'm sorry, but I don't know what "using the trunk of a tree with laterite stone being used for the superstructure" means. I think I probably sound grumpy but let's make this DYK something that will attract interest to your subject rather than something that will make people shake their head skeptically. Why not use "A local tradition states that the bridge was built by the Jesuits in a single night using the light of a single lamp." The miracle of the Jesuit causeway -- that's hooky. EEng (talk) 05:03, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- Which is I gave an alt. Please define authoritative source. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 04:21, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry, I don't buy it. This is an extraordinary statement that needs an authoritative source. EEng (talk) 04:12, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that local tradition holds that the Ponte Conde de Linhares was built by Jesuits in a single night by the light of a single lamp? EEng (talk) 14:05, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me. I guess now I wait for a reviewer to come along. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 16:55, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
Full review of nomination needed now that hook issues have been discussed. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:25, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
- Drive-by comment: Suggest not running with the picture if the hook is to be about the ancient bridge; the photo is of a modern roadway. Seems a strange contrast. A better idea might be a hook about how the roadway over the bridge is still operating after however many hundred years... though that might not be "hooky" enough. Another thought might be to dig up an old engraving or drawing of the old bridge in a more ancient setting. —/Mendaliv/2¢/Δ's/ 07:13, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
- Getting a new image for this is near difficult. There are none at Flickr, few Wikimedians in Goa, and I'm not willing to travel that far for a picture, although I have done so earlier. Better, just scrap the entire picture. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 19:14, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
5x expanded, new (when nominated) long enough article. No copyvios apparent. All images used in the article are free. All alts verified. But will go with ALT2. Nothing the image & hook's discrepancy, lets drop the image for display on main page.
In all, good to go for ALT2 without image. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 05:41, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
