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The result was: promoted by Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:54, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Princess Irene of the Netherlands[edit]

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Created/expanded by We hope (talk). Nominated by George Ho (talk) at 17:13, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

  • I have changed the hook to go under limit. --George Ho (talk) 19:48, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
long enough, new enough, 2X expansion of a BLP, image seems okay but I've got a couple of issues:
  • I see that the Protestants had issues, but I do not see that the Catholics complained.
  • just under the image is a lonely sentence with no paragraph and no citation.
  • The first para of the "marriage controversy" section seems out of context, should go after the announcement of the marriage, or better still, in the marriage section.
  • audience does not need to be capitalized. There could be more, I stopped looking.--Ishtar456 (talk) 19:58, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Stroke out previous hook in favor of resolving one issue; don't know about second. --George Ho (talk) 20:04, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
I didn't know this had been nominated, so please let me take a few minutes to try to address the issues brought up and to suggest a possible hook. We hope (talk) 20:11, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
don't worry there is not a huge rush.--Ishtar456 (talk) 20:25, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! Am going at it now. We hope (talk) 20:33, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Have moved some text, added and changed some and some more refs. The issues with regard to Spain and Catholicism go back to the 16th century and Spanish rule that tried to re-establish Catholicism in the Netherlands after many Dutch had become Protestants. Have tried a "thumbnail" explanation and links to the historical material but think if I go further with that in the article, it would "spoil" the BLP since this is about the Princess basically. The information is available via links for anyone who wants to delve further into the history of these issues. In many cases, "old history" dies hard because it has been passed down from generation to generation for hundreds of years. It may not always pass down as total truth, but it gets passed on. One of my great-grandmothers was born hundreds of years after The Reformation, but "information" about it was passed down to her, and she, in turn, passed it down to her kids.

One of the very interesting things that just turned up is that when the family fled from the Netherlands to escape the Nazis, Irene was carried by her parents to the British ship that would take them into exile in a gasproof box, in the event of a chemical attack on the Dutch Royal Family. What about a hook dealing with that aspect? We hope (talk) 23:44, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

You can certainly propose any hook you want as long as there is a citation. Truthfully I was going to say that I think the original hook is bland and obvious. I would rather it say her conversion/marriage caused a constitutional crisis. But, I would rather that the source for that state that explicitly. The one that is there implies it, but I like to be very precise.--Ishtar456 (talk) 00:15, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

ALT 1: that the conversion to Catholicism of Princess Irene of the Netherlands (pictured with two of her sisters) and her marriage to Prince Carlos Hugo, Duke of Parma caused a constitutional crisis for her country?

I added an explicit citation that covers this hook. What do you think?--Ishtar456 (talk) 00:41, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Seems fine to me, :-) We hope (talk) 00:54, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Again, sorry to have held this up-had I known it was nominated, I would have taken care of the issues much earlier-thanks! We hope (talk) 01:22, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

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