Template:Did you know nominations/Shelley Chaplin
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 00:07, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
Shelley Chaplin[edit]
- ... that Shelley Chaplin (pictured) was an All-American even though she was not American at all?
- Reviewed: Stafanie Taylor
Created/expanded by Hawkeye7 (talk), LauraHale (talk). Nominated by Hawkeye7 (talk) at 05:02, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
The article seems long enough for DYK. It is new enough but it had many red links, which i think must not be there. Apparently, I didn't see any citation to act as a source for the hook, though the rest of the article is referenced well. Arius1998 (talk) 11:06, 17 September 2012 (UTC)- DYK Guidelines only mention that redlinks should not be in the hook. Redlinks within the article are not addressed in the guidelines and not an issue in passing this nomination. Maile66 (talk) 20:38, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
In progress
- QPQ - I question whether Stafanie Taylor was actually a review, since all Hawkeye7 did was tell the author they needed two QPQs for a double hook. They never reviewed the hook or the article.
- Re the hook - "All-American" is referenced three times at the end of the sentence, so that's good. However, her not being an American is not clear because of the way the article is written. It gives her birthdate, but not her birthplace. "Hometown" is not the same thing as birthplace. The article jumps from her birth to her living in Illinois. If she was born in the United States, regardless of where she may have later lived, or for which team she played, she is an American. Even if she was born in the USA to non-American parents, and immediately taken out of the country, that still makes her an American. It all hinges on where she was actually born. Can you get that cleared up and sourced? If not, please this needs a different hook. Maile66 (talk) 15:40, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
- Every country has the right to decide who its citizens are. We could all be declared citizens of Libya tomorrow. However, I think we are still in the clear here, because I know full well that Chappas was born in Bendigo. Added a reference to the article back this up. I think this resolves your issue. I can't tell you why foreigners are eligible to be "All-American". I just thought that it made a great sounding hook. Hawkeye7 (talk) 02:51, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
- Looking at this diff, it would appear that the QPQ is valid. Schwede66 18:47, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
- Note: adding hyphen to "All American" in hook text (it is correct in the nominated article). Agree that QPQ was valid: the two lines above the icon are part of the review, and the main substance of it. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:22, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
In progress I am currently working on this. However, very shortly I will not have computer access, for possibly the rest of the day. Might be tomorrow before I finish, but I will take care of this. Maile66 (talk) 14:40, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
- REVIEW COMPLETED - The following has been checked in this review by Maile66
- QPQ done by Hawkeye7 on May 20, 2012
- Article created by Thecave15 on November 8, 2007 and has then blanked the page
- Prior to the 5X expansion by Hawkeye7 and LauraHale, the article had 510 characters of readable prose
- Current size is 5,376 characters of readable prose
- NPOV
- Every paragraph sourced
- Hook is interesting, short enough and appropriately sourced
- Duplication Detector run, no copyvio found
GOOD 2 GO