Template:Did you know nominations/Sifting and winnowing
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Gatoclass (talk) 13:59, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
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Sifting and winnowing
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- ... the University of Wisconsin–Madison's sifting and winnowing tradition of defending academic freedom was commemorated by its Class of 1910 in a prominent plaque (pictured)?
- Reviewed: Linda Braidwood
- Comment:
ALT2 preferred if run without image - ALT1: ... the University of Wisconsin–Madison has a tradition of encouraging "that continual and fearless sifting and winnowing (plaque pictured) by which alone the truth can be found"?
ALT2: ... whatever the limitations that trammel inquiry elsewhere, the UW–Madison encourages that continual and fearless sifting and winnowing (plaque pictured) by which alone the truth can be found?
Created by Czar (talk). Self nominated at 02:50, 9 November 2013 (UTC).
Long enough, new enough, hook short enough (bits in 'pictured' brackets don't count). The plaque effectively sourced ALT0 and ALT1; I recommend that ALT2, if used, be either placed in quotes or reworded as it's still taken from the plaque. I don't know what UW-Madison is, so I would recommend writing it as 'University of Wisconsin-Madison' as you do have the room to do so. Image is fair use, but doesn't show up too well at small size - I simply cannot read it at that small! Also the lead section doesn't have a reference in it.--Launchballer 13:50, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
- Image is free use, not fair use (which wouldn't be okay for DYK). Lede shouldn't need refs since it paraphrases the article, which is fully sourced. Expand UWM in ALT2 if necessary, but whether the parenthetical text counts is still debated (see E5). Also you may want to add a tick icon so others can see the status of the nom. czar ♔ 02:51, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry, I'm still learning.
- Image is free use, not fair use (which wouldn't be okay for DYK). Lede shouldn't need refs since it paraphrases the article, which is fully sourced. Expand UWM in ALT2 if necessary, but whether the parenthetical text counts is still debated (see E5). Also you may want to add a tick icon so others can see the status of the nom. czar ♔ 02:51, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
ALT3: ... whatever the limitations that trammel inquiry elsewhere, the University of Wisconsin–Madison encourages that continual and fearless sifting and winnowing (plaque pictured) by which alone the truth can be found?
Requires another reviewer to look at it, though.--Launchballer 08:29, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
- No problem—just don't know why the nom is on hold. How is that ALT3 different from ALT2? We'd only need another reviewer if I wanted to use a hook you wrote (and even that's not exactly a rule). Anyway, let me know what needs to change, or only approve the hooks you want, etc. czar ♔ 14:21, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
Striking both ALT2 and ALT3, as they fail to use quote marks to indicate the quoted part of the original committee report used in the hook (something Launchballer originally noted, but then didn't rectify when proposing ALT3). Either can be reproposed if all quoted sections are properly marked. Alternatively, if the original hook and ALT1 are ready to go, this could be approved right now with the later two ALT hooks now eliminated. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:58, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
