Template:Did you know nominations/Signaling of the New York City Subway

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 12:21, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Signaling of the New York City Subway[edit]

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... that some parts of the New York City Subway's signaling system are 80 years old? Sources: (1) NY Times 2017. "On a recent evening, Mr. Habersham walked along the train tracks near 34th Street in Manhattan as workers replaced antiquated switches and cables. A signal system should last about 50 years, he said, but the one that guides trains through this slice of Manhattan has been in place for about 80." (2) NY Daily News. "Twenty-first century straphangers are reliant on sometimes obsolete mechanical equipment installed as long as 80 years ago — when Franklin Roosevelt was in the White House and Babe Ruth in Yankee Stadium."
- ALT1:... that some parts of the New York City Subway's signaling system have not been replaced in 80 years? Source: Same as above
- ALT2:... that a fully automated signaling system on the New York City Subway was tested starting in 1959? Source: NY Times Published: February 16, 1960. "The Transit Authority is conducting tests in Brooklyn as a preliminary step in the development of a crewless subway train. [...] Since the tests were started in December...

Reviewed: Did you know nominations/Serra Cross

Improved to Good Article status by Epicgenius (talk) and Kew Gardens 613 (talk). Nominated by Epicgenius (talk) at 01:04, 1 May 2018 (UTC).

Good article status confirmed.
Long enough
Neutral
Interesting and concise hook - Barbara ✐ ✉ 04:34, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure why the review is in small type; it shouldn't be. Barbara (WVS), I was wondering if or when you were planning on completing the review since the first part was posted: there is nothing mentioned about neutrality, hook or article sourcing, copyvio/close paraphrasing, or whether the submitted QPQ was adequate, and no icon was given. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:13, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

It's been over two weeks without a response; full review still needed, and a new reviewer appears to be required as well.. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:38, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

General eligibility:

New enough:
Long enough:
Other problems: - "some of the oldest block signals in the system were 80 years old" is repeated twice on two consecutive paragraphs; to prevent redundancy, one or the other mention has to go.

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:
Other problems: - If possible, perhaps an alternate hook here can be proposed here about the 80-year old signals causing breakdowns?

QPQ: Done.

Overall: For this to be passed, the above comments need to be addressed. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 01:16, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5: Thanks for the re-review. I removed the first mention of the "80-year-old block signal" sentence, as it was redundant. How about this?
- ALT3:... that some parts of the New York City Subway's signaling system have not been replaced in 80 years, causing over 10,000 delays just in the span of two months?
This is also sourced to the same reference above, as well as this. epicgenius (talk) 01:21, 31 May 2018 (UTC).

Thanks for the edits: ALT3 is approved. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 01:24, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5: I made a mistake in my previous alt. epicgenius (talk) 18:19, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- ALT3:... that some parts of the New York City Subway's signaling system have not been replaced in 80 years, causing over 10,000 train delays just in the span of two months?