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The result was: promoted by Cielquiparle (talk) 12:26, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Sinéad O'Connor on Saturday Night Live

Sinéad O'Connor
Sinéad O'Connor

Created by Thriley (talk) and Popcornfud (talk). Nominated by Thriley (talk) at 05:25, 1 August 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Sinéad O'Connor on Saturday Night Live; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  • Fantastic and sadly topical article. Having watched this live it still has a piece of my brain. New enough, extensively cited, covers the story well, and the hook works and is directly cited. @Thriley: Needs QPQ, let me know. Maury Markowitz (talk) 19:59, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
I would like to propose slightly different wording. She never regretted her performance and ripping up the photo. I think stating so makes it more hooky. ALT1: that Sinéad O'Connor (pictured) never regretted tearing up a picture of the Pope on Saturday Night Live, saying that it put her life "back on the right track"? Thriley (talk) 01:00, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
That works too, and I agree it improves the flow. Just waiting on that QPQ! Maury Markowitz (talk) 18:45, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
QPQ added. Thriley (talk) 00:31, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
I would like to include this picture in the nomination:
. Thriley (talk) 00:35, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

QPQ complete, GTG. Maury Markowitz (talk) 20:13, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

The hook would be much better if the determiner "a" were changed to "her mother's", i.e.ALT2 : that Sinéad O'Connor (pictured) never regretted tearing up her mother's picture of the Pope on Saturday Night Live, saying that it put her life "back on the right track"? -- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 23:18, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
I think “it” should be replaced with “doing so” just to make what she is referring to clearer. ALT3: that Sinéad O'Connor (pictured) never regretted tearing up a picture of the Pope on Saturday Night Live, saying that doing so put her life "back on the right track"? Thriley (talk) 17:13, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
@SashiRolls and Thriley: I just wanted to throw my two cents about your suggestions: ALT2 is more complete, while ALT3 is more correct, but they both risk to become too long and wordy, in my opinion... What about a compromise?
ALT4: ... that Sinéad O'Connor (pictured) said that tearing up her mother's picture of the Pope on Saturday Night Live put her "back on the right track"? Oltrepier (talk) 17:41, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. Is this still active? -- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 21:17, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
This is a much better hook. Thank you. Thriley (talk) 23:54, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
@Thriley: Picture hooks require the image to actually appear in the article itself. Cielquiparle (talk) 03:21, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
@Cielquiparle: I have added the photo to the article body. Thriley (talk) 04:19, 30 August 2023 (UTC)