Template:Did you know nominations/Somewhere Down the Crazy River

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The result was: promoted by Ohc ^¡digame! 03:48, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Somewhere Down the Crazy River[edit]

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... that "Somewhere Down the Crazy River" is, according to its producer, "kind of like a guy with a deep voice telling you about steaming nights in Arkansas"?

Comment: My hooks are forever being criticised for being dry and uninteresting - a criticism of Template:Did you know nominations/Gander Green Lane was that the proposed hook was "singularly uninteresting, and probably couldn't be less so". ALT hooks are more than welcome.

5x expanded by Launchballer (talk). Self nominated at 10:23, 27 January 2014 (UTC).

The article, once the 125-word quote (720 prose characters) has been properly blockquoted (and the quote fixed), is 849 prose characters, far too short. It was expanded from material originally in the album, so removing it actually makes expansion easier, since the blockquote is no longer counted as something that needs 5x expansion. It is new enough, and the hook is almost fully supported: it is properly supported for the quote, but there's a bit of confusion on "its producer" as to whether Lanois is the sole producer (the cited source credits just him) or whether both Lanois and Gabriel are producers (according to the infobox and its source). When I went to check the Juno Awards source in the intro, which would seem to credit both Lanois and Robertson as producers (we're now up to three), the link does not go to an awards page; you'll need a new source for this one, preferably one that doesn't given an anachronistic name for the award. No QPQ has been provided. A significant expansion is needed for this article to qualify—at the moment, there's very little meat here. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:10, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

I've reworded the quote. I consider inlay notes the best source for writers and producers because they tend to be the ones that undergo the most scrutiny, therefore reworded everything else. I've replaced the dead link with an archived one. And I wouldn't consider the name of the award anachronistic; rightly or wrongly, that's the name we use! QPQ has been done. I think that's everything.--Laun chba ller 10:43, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

By "anachronistic", I meant that the award wasn't named for Richardson until the 21st century, so to say that the song won an award with that name in 1989 is not accurate. However, looking at the Metrolyrics source you're using, the award went to Robertson himself, not to Lanois. You might want to use this source instead; I'm frankly dubious about Metrolyrics being considered reliable generally, and more so because they messed this one up. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:30, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

I actually questioned MetroLyrics' reliability myself, but concluded it reliable because it's the only actual lyrics site we can use. I've replaced the source, though. I've 'fixed' the link by piping it and putting 'the then-called Producer of the Year Award'.--Laun chba ller 15:29, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

New reviewer needed to recheck sourcing to support the hook and the award, and to review the article (including neutrality and close paraphrasing checks), which is about half new since the last review. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:55, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

This is an iconic song that shows Lanois' Cajun influence, and the hook demonstrates just where that slow-burn smoky feel comes from. Hovever, it all rests on one review. I was expecting to see more critical commentary. Maybe too long has elapsed since the record came out... -- Ohc ^¡digame! 09:38, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

There was almost certainly a lot of reviews done for it at the time, it's just finding them - I wouldn't know where to start looking for them! There are two reviews cited, though.--Laun chba ller 10:19, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

There's always Allmusic, then maybe try searching for the album in which it appeared. -- Ohc ^¡digame! 10:41, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

I have. The Allmusic comment there is from its album review.--Laun chba ller 10:53, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Looks good. It's long enough now, hook source is OK. Article is heavy on quotations, but I think the quotations are appropriate (not an issue of excessive quotations). --Orlady (talk) 21:00, 10 February 2014 (UTC)