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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:09, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

St. Stephan, Baden

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Organ in St. Stephan, Baden
Organ in St. Stephan, Baden

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 22:14, 3 June 2017 (UTC).

  • New enough, long enough, neutrally written, adequately referenced. Unable to check for close paraphrasing in offline and foreign-language sources. Images are freely licensed. QPQ done. However, the "History" section lacks any cites, per WP:DYKSG#D2. And the hook fact, and the way it is written in the lead and body of the article, are not consistent. The lead just says the motet premiered at the church in 1791. The body says Mozart composed the motet for the conductor, and it probably premiered at the church in 1791. And the hook states that he composed the motet specifically for the occasion of Corpus Christi at the church. Please advise. Yoninah (talk) 21:47, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
  • Will look, another one from de without sources other than books I don't have. We know without source that "Ave verum corpus" is for "Corpus Christi", but I understand that I have to find which source said so. - If I don't find it, we could just drop it from the hook but run it that day. Readers would make the connection. It's one of the most famous motets there is, and the church article was written only because of it ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:54, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that Mozart composed his motet Ave verum corpus for the church choir of St. Stephan in Baden (organ pictured) on 17 June 1791?
If we can't make the feast day, the 17th would be another option. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:30, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
ps: all sources agree on the year 1791 for the premiere, - the "probably" is for the day which we don't know, but the day of composition precisely. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:33, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
  • @Gerda Arendt: Thank you. But I only see in the source that he composed the motet for the conductor "in June 1791", and edited the article accordingly. Could we remove the day in the hook, and still run it for the feast of Corpus Christi? Yoninah (talk) 08:48, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
ALT2: ... that Mozart composed his motet Ave verum corpus for the church choir of St. Stephan in Baden (organ pictured) in June 1791?
yes, but I added the exact date to the article, as sources agree on it --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:56, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
  • OK, now I see the date explicitly mentioned in the German source, so let's go with ALT1. And let's go with the June 17 prep set, since it is the anniversary. ALT1 hook ref verified and cited inline. ALT1 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 09:11, 12 June 2017 (UTC)